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From: Jinchao Wang <wangjinchao600@gmail.com>
To: "Masami Hiramatsu (Google)" <mhiramat@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	x86@kernel.org,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Alexander Shishkin <alexander.shishkin@linux.intel.com>,
	Ian Rogers <irogers@google.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] tracing: wprobe: Add wprobe for watchpoint
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 17:02:24 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <bab08c27-cf0a-445e-8071-dac2a0f8c6d1@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250905110852.2c9a0be5f5e5338f1a00cdd4@kernel.org>

On 9/5/25 10:08, Masami Hiramatsu (Google) wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 14:35:33 +0800
> Jinchao Wang <wangjinchao600@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 9/2/25 22:02, Masami Hiramatsu (Google) wrote:
>>> (Adding Jinchao)
>>>
>>> On Mon,  1 Sep 2025 23:44:35 +0900
>>> "Masami Hiramatsu (Google)" <mhiramat@kernel.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Here is an RFC series for adding new wprobe (watch probe) which
>>>> provides memory access tracing event. Moreover, this can be used via
>>>> event trigger. Thus it can trace memory access on a dynamically
>>>> allocated objects too.
>>>
>>> BTW, this series is on the top of probes/for-next branch in the
>>> linux-trace tree.
>>>
>>
>> Hi, Masami
>>
>> Thanks for including me. I only received the cover letter, so I'm
>> providing my feedback here:
> 
> Thanks for your feedback! I'll send v2.
> 
>>
>> - trigger_data issue:
>>     it appears that the instance being removed is not the same as
>>     the one that was originally set.
> 
> Did you mean it will free invalid struct event_trigger_data by
> wprobe_trigger_free(), or hw_breakpoint instance?
> 
> When trace_event_enable_disable(wprobe_data->file, 1, 1) at
> wprobe_trigger_cmd_parse(), the trace_wprobe is enabled == call
> enable_trace_wprobe(), which eventually call register_wide_hw_breakpoint()
> with dummy address. IOW, the (wide)hw_breakpoint is allocated here.
> 
> When the trigger is hit, modify_wide_hw_breakpoint_local() is called
> for updating local target address on the same hw_breakpoint.
> So latter instance should be the same.
In wprobe_trigger_cmd_parse(), consider removing:
   echo '!set_wprobe:watch:dentry' >> events/fprobes/truncate/trigger
The trigger_data passed to event_trigger_unregister() is freshly allocated.
> 
>>
>>    - the function call issue:
>>      `trace_wprobe_update_local()` is called twice, once in the trigger
>>      callback and again in `wprobe_work_func`.
> 
> Yes, I found it can happen. Maybe I need a cpumask to skip the first one.
> 
>> I also noticed that the Watchpoint probe and KStackWatch implementations
>> share very similar logic for managing hardware breakpoints/watchpoints
>> (`hwbp/watch`):
>> - `watch_init(unsigned long &place_holder)`
>> - `watch_on(struct perf_event_attr *attr)`
>> - `watch_off()` (or reset to the `place_holder` value)
>> - `watch_uninit()`
> 
> Hmm, I agree that we are using hwbp in a similar way but
> I think current interface is enough.
> 
>>
>> Their primary difference lies in their handler functions, specifically
>> the `perf_overflow_handler_t triggered` callback.
>>
>> I believe we could work together to unify this logic. I am open to
>> either approach: I can refactor my watch.c, or you can introduce new
>> helpers. This would help us save duplicated work and review time.
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean. Is there any concern to use the same
> (current hwbp) interfaces?
> 
It is not the _current_ HWBP interface, it needs review. We will write
the same logic except for the HWBP interface regarding atomic context
watch switch (addr/type/len) and the process to sync with other CPUs.

The only difference is the HWBP handler.

I am not familiar with the process of how we usually do roughly the
same thing. Maybe I am thinking about it the wrong way; I will look
at it later. > Thank you,
> 
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In this version, I reuse Jinchao's arch_reinstall_hw_breakpoint()
>>>> patch[1].
>>>>
>>>> [1] https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250828073311.1116593-6-wangjinchao600@gmail.com/
>>>>
>>>> The basic usage of this wprobe is similar to other probes;
>>>>
>>>>     w:[GRP/][EVENT] [r|w|rw]@<ADDRESS|SYMBOL[+OFFS]> [FETCHARGS]
>>>>
>>>> This defines a new wprobe event. For example, to trace jiffies update,
>>>> you can do;
>>>>
>>>>    echo 'w:my_jiffies w@jiffies:8 value=+0($addr)' >> dynamic_events
>>>>    echo 1 > events/wprobes/my_jiffies/enable
>>>>
>>>> Moreover, this can be combined with event trigger to trace the memory
>>>> accecss on slab objects. The trigger syntax is;
>>>>
>>>>     set_wprobe:WPROBE_EVENT:FIELD[+ADJUST]
>>>>     clear_wprobe:WPROBE_EVENT
>>>>
>>>> For example, trace the first 8 byte of the dentry data structure passed
>>>> to do_truncate() until it is deleted by __dentry_kill().
>>>> (Note: all tracefs setup uses '>>' so that it does not kick do_truncate())
>>>>
>>>>     # echo 'w:watch rw@0:8 address=$addr value=+0($addr)' > dynamic_events
>>>>
>>>>     # echo 'f:truncate do_truncate dentry=$arg2' >> dynamic_events
>>>>     # echo 'set_wprobe:watch:dentry' >> events/fprobes/truncate/trigger
>>>>
>>>>     # echo 'f:dentry_kill __dentry_kill dentry=$arg1' >> dynamic_events
>>>>     # echo 'clear_wprobe:watch' >> events/fprobes/dentry_kill/trigger
>>>>
>>>>     # echo 1 >> events/fprobes/truncate/enable
>>>>     # echo 1 >> events/fprobes/dentry_kill/enable
>>>>
>>>>     # echo aaa > /tmp/hoge
>>>>     # echo bbb > /tmp/hoge
>>>>     # echo ccc > /tmp/hoge
>>>>     # rm /tmp/hoge
>>>>
>>>> Then, the trace data will show;
>>>>
>>>> # tracer: nop
>>>> #
>>>> # entries-in-buffer/entries-written: 16/16   #P:8
>>>> #
>>>> #                                _-----=> irqs-off/BH-disabled
>>>> #                               / _----=> need-resched
>>>> #                              | / _---=> hardirq/softirq
>>>> #                              || / _--=> preempt-depth
>>>> #                              ||| / _-=> migrate-disable
>>>> #                              |||| /     delay
>>>> #           TASK-PID     CPU#  |||||  TIMESTAMP  FUNCTION
>>>> #    [    7.026136] sh (113) used greatest stack depth: 12912 bytes left
>>>>             | |         |   |||||     |         |
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] .....     7.024402: truncate: (do_truncate+0x4/0x120) dentry=0xffff8880069194b8
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ..Zff     7.024822: watch: (lookup_fast+0xaa/0x150) address=0xffff8880069194b8 value=0x200008
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ..Zff     7.024830: watch: (step_into+0x82/0x360) address=0xffff8880069194b8 value=0x200008
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ..Zff     7.024834: watch: (step_into+0x9f/0x360) address=0xffff8880069194b8 value=0x200008
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ..Zff     7.024839: watch: (path_openat+0xb3a/0xe70) address=0xffff8880069194b8 value=0x200008
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ..Zff     7.024843: watch: (path_openat+0xb9a/0xe70) address=0xffff8880069194b8 value=0x200008
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] .....     7.024847: truncate: (do_truncate+0x4/0x120) dentry=0xffff8880069194b8
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ...1.     7.025364: dentry_kill: (__dentry_kill+0x0/0x220) dentry=0xffff888006919380
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ...1.     7.025511: dentry_kill: (__dentry_kill+0x0/0x220) dentry=0xffff8880069195f0
>>>>                 rm-118     [003] ...1.     7.027543: dentry_kill: (__dentry_kill+0x0/0x220) dentry=0xffff8880069194b8
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ...2.     7.027825: dentry_kill: (__dentry_kill+0x0/0x220) dentry=0xffff8880044429c0
>>>>                 sh-113     [002] ...2.     7.027833: dentry_kill: (__dentry_kill+0x0/0x220) dentry=0xffff888004442270
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> Jinchao Wang (1):
>>>>         x86/HWBP: introduce arch_reinstall_hw_breakpoint() for atomic context
>>>>
>>>> Masami Hiramatsu (Google) (5):
>>>>         tracing: wprobe: Add watchpoint probe event based on hardware breakpoint
>>>>         HWBP: Add modify_wide_hw_breakpoint_local() API
>>>>         tracing: wprobe: Add wprobe event trigger
>>>>         selftests: tracing: Add a basic testcase for wprobe
>>>>         selftests: tracing: Add syntax testcase for wprobe
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>    Documentation/trace/index.rst                      |    1
>>>>    Documentation/trace/wprobetrace.rst                |  129 ++
>>>>    arch/Kconfig                                       |   10
>>>>    arch/x86/Kconfig                                   |    1
>>>>    arch/x86/include/asm/hw_breakpoint.h               |    3
>>>>    arch/x86/kernel/hw_breakpoint.c                    |   61 +
>>>>    include/linux/hw_breakpoint.h                      |    6
>>>>    include/linux/trace_events.h                       |    3
>>>>    kernel/events/hw_breakpoint.c                      |   36 +
>>>>    kernel/trace/Kconfig                               |   24
>>>>    kernel/trace/Makefile                              |    1
>>>>    kernel/trace/trace.c                               |    9
>>>>    kernel/trace/trace.h                               |    5
>>>>    kernel/trace/trace_probe.c                         |   20
>>>>    kernel/trace/trace_probe.h                         |    8
>>>>    kernel/trace/trace_wprobe.c                        | 1111 ++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>    .../ftrace/test.d/dynevent/add_remove_wprobe.tc    |   68 +
>>>>    .../test.d/dynevent/wprobes_syntax_errors.tc       |   20
>>>>    18 files changed, 1513 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-)
>>>>    create mode 100644 Documentation/trace/wprobetrace.rst
>>>>    create mode 100644 kernel/trace/trace_wprobe.c
>>>>    create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/ftrace/test.d/dynevent/add_remove_wprobe.tc
>>>>    create mode 100644 tools/testing/selftests/ftrace/test.d/dynevent/wprobes_syntax_errors.tc
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Masami Hiramatsu (Google) <mhiramat@kernel.org>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Best regards,
>> Jinchao
> 
> 


-- 
Best regards,
Jinchao

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-05  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-01 14:44 [RFC PATCH 0/6] tracing: wprobe: Add wprobe for watchpoint Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-09-01 14:44 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] tracing: wprobe: Add watchpoint probe event based on hardware breakpoint Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-09-01 14:44 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] x86/HWBP: introduce arch_reinstall_hw_breakpoint() for atomic context Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-09-01 14:45 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] HWBP: Add modify_wide_hw_breakpoint_local() API Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-09-01 14:45 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] tracing: wprobe: Add wprobe event trigger Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-09-01 14:45 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] selftests: tracing: Add a basic testcase for wprobe Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-09-01 14:45 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] selftests: tracing: Add syntax " Masami Hiramatsu (Google)
2025-09-02 14:02 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] tracing: wprobe: Add wprobe for watchpoint Masami Hiramatsu
2025-09-04  6:35   ` Jinchao Wang
2025-09-05  2:08     ` Masami Hiramatsu
2025-09-05  9:02       ` Jinchao Wang [this message]
2025-09-10  1:11         ` Masami Hiramatsu

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