From: Wen Yang <wen.yang@linux.dev>
To: Gabriele Monaco <gmonaco@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] rv/da: fix per-task da_monitor_destroy() ordering and sync
Date: Wed, 13 May 2026 13:32:17 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <cb929b8b-5bfb-4afe-ba50-45620c38ea96@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8e80cbcf739304de95356f1fac677261628977fa.camel@redhat.com>
On 5/12/26 17:09, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
> On Tue, 2026-05-12 at 10:27 +0200, Gabriele Monaco wrote:
>> On Tue, 2026-05-12 at 02:24 +0800, wen.yang@linux.dev wrote:
>>> From: Wen Yang <wen.yang@linux.dev>
>>>
>>> The following two paths race:
>>>
>>> CPU 0 (disable_stall/__rv_disable_monitor) CPU 1 (wwnr probe handler)
>> ^ did you mean stall?
>
> Ok I got it now, so essentially you'd reproduce it like:
>
> * start a DA per-task monitor (no timer)
> * stop it, a handler is still running after reset, it sets monitoring back to 1
> * start an HA per-task monitor
>
> that would use the same slot that is now looking like:
>
> { monitoring = 1, timer.function = NULL }
>
> because it was not initialised as HA but monitoring was reset in the race.
>
> Thinking about this again, it isn't just an issue with per-task monitors, all
> monitors reusing slots would suffer from it.
> Besides, relying on monitoring can be fragile when using LTL monitors on the
> same task (those don't even have monitoring).
>
> Perhaps the solution isn't that trivial, I'm going to give one more thought on
> it, but thanks again for bringing this up!
>
> Gabriele
>
>>> ------------------------------------------ -----------------------------
>>> disable_stall()
>>> da_monitor_destroy()
>>> da_monitor_reset_all() <------ [task T: monitoring=0]
>>> da_monitor_start(&T->rv[n])
>>> /* no timer_setup */
>>> monitoring=1 <----
>>> tracepoint_synchronize_unregister()
>>> // CPU 1 probe has already returned; sync returns
>>>
>>> Later, enable_stall() acquires the same slot and calls da_monitor_init():
>>>
>>> da_monitor_reset_all()
>>> da_monitor_reset(&T->rv[slot]) // monitoring=1, timer.function==0
>>> ha_monitor_reset_env()
>>> ha_cancel_timer()
>>> timer_delete(&ha_mon->timer) // ODEBUG: timer never initialised
>>>
>>> ODEBUG: assert_init not available (active state 0)
>>> object type: timer_list
>>> Call trace: timer_delete <- da_monitor_reset_all <- enable_stall
>>>
>>> Call tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() inside da_monitor_destroy()
>>> before da_monitor_reset_all(). The unregister_trace_xxx() calls in the
>>> monitor's disable() have already disconnected the tracepoints; the sync
>>> here drains any handler still in flight, so no new monitoring=1 can
>>> appear after da_monitor_reset_all() clears the slot.
>>>
>>> Also fix the slot release ordering: release the slot only after
>>> reset_all() to avoid accessing rv[] with an out-of-bounds index.
>>>
>>> Fixes: f5587d1b6ec9 ("rv: Add Hybrid Automata monitor type")
>>> Signed-off-by: Wen Yang <wen.yang@linux.dev>
>>> ---
>>
>> Thanks for the fix, I have a similar one waiting for submission.
>>
>> These are technically 2 separate fixes though: the ordering with unset
>> task_mon_slot (independent on HA) and the synchronisation with pending
>> tracepoints. They probably deserve separate patches and visibility, the first
>> has always been around and we're technically overwriting who knows what.
>>
>>
>> The explanation above is a bit hard to follow though, are you talking about a
>> handler for the same (stall) monitor running after the reset, effectively
>> undoing it by setting the monitoring flag?
>>
>> Then this is indeed an issue with ha_monitor_reset_env() which expects a clean
>> environment.
>>
>> So that's basically what you'd see now much more often because in fact we
>> don't
>> reset the right slot (though, again, that's a different issue).
>>
>>
>> Calling tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() there too would surely fix, but it
>> used to be kinda slow. But it's probably gotten faster since now tracepoints
>> use
>> SRCU, so we can wait for a dedicated grace period.
>>
>> I liked the idea to wait cumulatively in the end, but that's just making
>> things
>> harder.. Let's do like this:
>>
>> Prepare 2 separate patches as fixes, put the task slot one first (would ease
>> backporting), mention this issue with the race condition only in the second.
>> You can send them independently and I'll add them to the tree as urgent.
>>
>>
>> I'm soon going to send my set of fixes that will also include the task slot
>> patch (not removing to ease my life with conflicts).
>>
Hi Gabriele,
Thanks for both messages. Two patches are ready; let me address
your follow-up concerns before sending.
1. "all monitors reusing slots would suffer from it"
Only RV_MON_PER_TASK uses the rv_get/put_task_monitor_slot()
pool. RV_MON_GLOBAL and RV_MON_PER_CPU each have dedicated
storage (a single static variable and a per-cpu variable) and
never share slots across monitor types. The race is exclusive
to PER_TASK, so fixing that variant's da_monitor_destroy() is
the correct scope.
2. "LTL monitors don't even have monitoring"
tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() does not rely on the
monitoring flag at all. It is a system-wide barrier — it
calls synchronize_rcu_tasks_trace() followed by
synchronize_srcu(&tracepoint_srcu) — draining every in-flight
tracepoint handler on every CPU regardless of which monitor
dispatched it. LTL handlers are covered without any special
treatment.
The slot-ordering issue (patch 1) affects all per-task DA monitors,
not only HA ones — "independent on HA" — because
RV_PER_TASK_MONITOR_INIT equals CONFIG_RV_PER_TASK_MONITORS (one
past the end of rv[]), so da_monitor_reset_all() overwrites whatever
follows rv[] in task_struct whenever any per-task monitor is
disabled.
Also corrected "wwnr probe handler" to "stall probe handler" in
patch 2 per your annotation.
Please let me know if the above reasoning addresses your concerns.
--
Best wishes,
Wen
>>
>>> include/rv/da_monitor.h | 18 ++++++++++++++++--
>>> 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/include/rv/da_monitor.h b/include/rv/da_monitor.h
>>> index 00ded3d5ab3f..d04bb3229c75 100644
>>> --- a/include/rv/da_monitor.h
>>> +++ b/include/rv/da_monitor.h
>>> @@ -304,6 +304,20 @@ static int da_monitor_init(void)
>>>
>>> /*
>>> * da_monitor_destroy - return the allocated slot
>>> + *
>>> + * Call tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() before reset_all() to close
>>> + * the race where an in-flight non-HA probe handler sets monitoring=1
>>> + * (without calling timer_setup()) after da_monitor_reset_all() has
>>> + * already cleared the slot but before the caller's own sync completes.
>>> + * Without this barrier, an HA_TIMER_WHEEL monitor that later acquires
>>> + * the same slot would call timer_delete() on a never-initialised
>>> + * timer_list, triggering ODEBUG warnings.
>>> + *
>>> + * Note: tracepoint_synchronize_unregister() is a system-wide barrier
>>> + * that waits for all CPUs to finish any in-flight tracepoint handlers.
>>> + * The caller's own __rv_disable_monitor() issues a second sync after
>>> + * returning from disable(); that redundant call is harmless on the
>>> + * infrequent admin (enable/disable) path.
>>> */
>>> static inline void da_monitor_destroy(void)
>>> {
>>> @@ -311,10 +325,10 @@ static inline void da_monitor_destroy(void)
>>> WARN_ONCE(1, "Disabling a disabled monitor: "
>>> __stringify(MONITOR_NAME));
>>> return;
>>> }
>>> + tracepoint_synchronize_unregister();
>>> + da_monitor_reset_all();
>>> rv_put_task_monitor_slot(task_mon_slot);
>>> task_mon_slot = RV_PER_TASK_MONITOR_INIT;
>>> -
>>> - da_monitor_reset_all();
>>> }
>>>
>>> #elif RV_MON_TYPE == RV_MON_PER_OBJ
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-05-13 5:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-05-11 18:24 [RFC PATCH v2 00/10] rv/tlob: Add task latency over budget RV monitor wen.yang
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/10] rv/da: fix monitor start ordering and memory ordering for monitoring flag wen.yang
2026-05-13 12:39 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/10] rv/da: fix per-task da_monitor_destroy() ordering and sync wen.yang
2026-05-12 8:27 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-12 9:09 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-13 5:32 ` Wen Yang [this message]
2026-05-13 9:31 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/10] selftests/verification: fix verificationtest-ktap for out-of-tree execution wen.yang
2026-05-13 8:32 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/10] rv/da: add pre-allocated storage pool for per-object monitors wen.yang
2026-05-13 13:47 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-13 13:50 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-13 14:01 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/10] rv: add generic uprobe infrastructure for RV monitors wen.yang
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/10] rvgen: support reset() on the __init arrow for global-window HA clocks wen.yang
2026-05-12 13:25 ` Gabriele Monaco
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/10] rv/tlob: add tlob model DOT file wen.yang
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/10] rv/tlob: add tlob hybrid automaton monitor wen.yang
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/10] rv/tlob: add KUnit tests for the tlob monitor wen.yang
2026-05-11 18:24 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/10] selftests/verification: add tlob selftests wen.yang
2026-05-13 7:46 ` Gabriele Monaco
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