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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 12.09.25 14:19, Kiryl Shutsemau wrote: > On Thu, Sep 11, 2025 at 09:27:55PM -0600, Nico Pache wrote: >> The following series provides khugepaged with the capability to collapse >> anonymous memory regions to mTHPs. >> >> To achieve this we generalize the khugepaged functions to no longer depend >> on PMD_ORDER. Then during the PMD scan, we use a bitmap to track individual >> pages that are occupied (!none/zero). After the PMD scan is done, we do >> binary recursion on the bitmap to find the optimal mTHP sizes for the PMD >> range. The restriction on max_ptes_none is removed during the scan, to make >> sure we account for the whole PMD range. When no mTHP size is enabled, the >> legacy behavior of khugepaged is maintained. max_ptes_none will be scaled >> by the attempted collapse order to determine how full a mTHP must be to be >> eligible for the collapse to occur. If a mTHP collapse is attempted, but >> contains swapped out, or shared pages, we don't perform the collapse. It is >> now also possible to collapse to mTHPs without requiring the PMD THP size >> to be enabled. >> >> When enabling (m)THP sizes, if max_ptes_none >= HPAGE_PMD_NR/2 (255 on >> 4K page size), it will be automatically capped to HPAGE_PMD_NR/2 - 1 for >> mTHP collapses to prevent collapse "creep" behavior. This prevents >> constantly promoting mTHPs to the next available size, which would occur >> because a collapse introduces more non-zero pages that would satisfy the >> promotion condition on subsequent scans. > > Hm. Maybe instead of capping at HPAGE_PMD_NR/2 - 1 we can count > all-zeros 4k as none_or_zero? It mirrors the logic of shrinker. > I am all for not adding any more ugliness on top of all the ugliness we added in the past. I will soon propose deprecating that parameter in favor of something that makes a bit more sense. In essence, we'll likely have an "eagerness" parameter that ranges from 0 to 10. 10 is essentially "always collapse" and 0 "never collapse if not all is populated". In between we will have more flexibility on how to set these values. Likely 9 will be around 50% to not even motivate the user to set something that does not make sense (creep). Of course, the old parameter will have to stick around in compat mode. -- Cheers David / dhildenb