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2025 at 03:34:01PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > > > Anyhow, this -rc cycle has been quite the firehose in MM and I'm > > > feeling a need to slow things down for additional stabilization and so > > > people hopefully get additional bandwidth to digest the material we've > > > added this far. So I think I'll just cherrypick [1/7] for now. A > > > great flood of positive review activity would probably make me revisit > > > that ;) > > > > > > > Kalesh - I do intend to look at this series when I have a chance. My review > > workload has been insane so it's hard to keep up at the moment. > > > > Andrew - This cycle has been crazy, speaking from point of view of somebody > > doing a lot of review, it's been very very exhausting from this side too, > > and this kind of work can feel a little... thankless... sometimes :) > > I hear you. I'm shedding most everything now, to give us a couple of > weeks to digest. Thanks, much appreciated! :) > > > I feel like we maybe need a way to ask people to slow down, sometimes at > > least. > > Yup, I'm sending submitters private emails explaining the situation. And again, much appreciated :) > > Maybe they should be public emails, I find it a hard call. Yeah it can be hard to get that balance right. Maybe public is better when we're deeper in the rc and there's a general load problem? > > > Perhaps being less accepting of patches during merge window is one aspect, > > as the merge window leading up to this cycle was almost the same review > > load as when the cycle started. > > I'm having trouble understanding what you said here? Sorry, what I mean to say is that in mm we're pretty open to taking stuff in the merge window, esp. now we have mm-new. And last merge window my review load felt similar to during a cycle, which was kind of crazy. So I wonder if we should be less accommodating and simply say 'sorry it's the merge window, no submissions accepted'? Of course I'm being a bit selfish here as I'm on holiday in the next merge window and hope forlornly to reduce the mail I come back to :P > > > Anyway, TL;DR: I think we need to be mindful of reviewer sanity as a factor > > in all this too :) > > > > (I am spekaing at Kernel Recipes then going on a very-badly-needed 2.5 week > > vacataion afterwards over the merge window so I hope to stave off burnout > > that way. Be good if I could keep mails upon return to 3 digits, but I have > > my doubts :P) > > I'd blow that in three days ;) Haha yeah I bet :) Cheers, Lorenzo