From: Crystal Wood <crwood@redhat.com>
To: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
Tomas Glozar <tglozar@redhat.com>,
Costa Shulyupin <costa.shul@redhat.com>,
Ivan Pravdin <ipravdin.official@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] tracing/osnoise: Sample IPI counts
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2026 14:51:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <f40903f8198f8e2f42f1efdf950f995f24cf6e93.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260610130457.1304245-2-vschneid@redhat.com>
On Wed, 2026-06-10 at 15:04 +0200, Valentin Schneider wrote:
> Osnoise already implictly accounts IPIs via its IRQ tracking,
Does it? It seems that IPIs bypass the kernel/irq subsystem on some
arches (including x86, but not ARM).
It would be nice to solve this properly by adding generic ipi
entry/exit tracing (similar to what ARM already has).
> however it
> can be interesting to distiguish between the two: undesired IPIs usually
> imply a software configuration issue (e.g. wrong/incomplete CPU isolation)
> whereas undesired (non-IPI) IRQs usually imply a hardware configuration
> issue.
>
> Signed-off-by: Valentin Schneider <vschneid@redhat.com>
> ---
> Note that this is modifying the osnoise:osnoise_entry Ftrace entry; I know
> trace events are sort of supposed to be stable, but I'm not sure about
> ftrace entries.
I think old rtla will be OK with this since it looks up fields by name
rather than assuming a fixed layout.
> Alternatively I can have this be purely supported in userspace osnoise by
> hooking into the IPI events and counting IPIs separately from the osnoise
> events.
One benefit I could see of doing this in kernel osnoise would be if you
could atomically correlate the count with the particular noise
interval, but this patch doesn't do that.
> +static void ipi_emission(struct osnoise_variables *osn_var, unsigned int dst_cpu)
> +{
> + if (!osn_var->sampling)
> + return;
> +
> + osn_var->ipi.count++;
> +}
> +
> +static void trace_ipi_send_cpu_callback(void *data, unsigned int cpu,
> + unsigned long callsite, void *callback)
> +{
> + struct osnoise_variables *osn_var;
> +
> + osn_var = per_cpu_ptr(&per_cpu_osnoise_var, cpu);
> + ipi_emission(osn_var, cpu);
> +}
> +
> +static void trace_ipi_send_cpumask_callback(void *data, const struct cpumask *cpumask,
> + unsigned long callsite, void *callback)
> +{
> + struct osnoise_variables *osn_var;
> + int cpu;
> +
> + for_each_cpu_and(cpu, cpumask, &osnoise_cpumask) {
> + osn_var = per_cpu_ptr(&per_cpu_osnoise_var, cpu);
> + ipi_emission(osn_var, cpu);
> + }
> +}
Isn't this racy to do from a different CPU? Both in terms of the
counter, and the timing of the increment relative to when the IPI is
actually received. Not necessarily a huge deal if you only care about
zero versus bignum, but still. At least worth a comment, if we go with
this approach.
-Crystal
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-06-10 19:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-06-10 13:04 [RFC PATCH 0/2] tracing/osnoise: Track IPIs Valentin Schneider
2026-06-10 13:04 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] tracing/osnoise: Sample IPI counts Valentin Schneider
2026-06-10 19:51 ` Crystal Wood [this message]
2026-06-11 8:59 ` Tomas Glozar
2026-06-11 10:30 ` Valentin Schneider
2026-06-11 11:55 ` Tomas Glozar
2026-06-12 8:53 ` Valentin Schneider
2026-06-11 20:49 ` Crystal Wood
2026-06-11 10:21 ` Valentin Schneider
2026-06-10 13:04 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] rtla/osnoise: Report IPI count in osnoise top Valentin Schneider
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=f40903f8198f8e2f42f1efdf950f995f24cf6e93.camel@redhat.com \
--to=crwood@redhat.com \
--cc=costa.shul@redhat.com \
--cc=ipravdin.official@gmail.com \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-trace-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com \
--cc=mhiramat@kernel.org \
--cc=rostedt@goodmis.org \
--cc=tglozar@redhat.com \
--cc=vschneid@redhat.com \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox