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From: "roland" <for_spam@gmx.de>
To: Henrik Nordstrom <uml@hno.marasystems.com>
Cc: Laurent Vivier <LaurentVivier@wanadoo.fr>,
	Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction
Date: Thu, 20 May 2004 17:27:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <00c801c43e7e$f0262690$2000000a@schlepptopp> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Pine.LNX.4.44.0405201609240.7143-100000@filer.marasystems.com

> What can be said is that applications running on the host is by far not as 
> dependent on context switching responsiveness to "feel good", and a CPU 
> hog in one UML does not cause any noticeable amount of extra context 
> switches, not much different from a CPU hog on the host in terms of 
> performance.

mh - maybe i don`t understand you completely right here - but - for me, most hogging
processes in uml produces a gazillion of context-switches on the host.

if i run getpid on the host, i cannot see (vmstat) a noticeable raise in the amount 
of context switches.

if i run getpid inside an uml - i see cs on the host raise from ~400 to ~230000 !!
the same getpid in a sysemu-patched uml/host results in a raise from ~400 to ~173000 cs - 
so this is noticeably better.

similar things happen with other "hogs" (idle state is always ~400 cs on host, cs rate
is from vmstat output on the host) :

"while true; do /bin/true; done"
host:         ~ 2000
uml:          ~ 24000
uml-sysemu:   ~ 17000

"while true; do find /; done"
host:        up to ~ 24000 (alternating very much - didn`t measure average value)
uml:         up to ~ 60000 ( " )       
uml-sysemu:  up to ~ 48000 ( " )

"dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/null"
host:        no noticeably differnce
uml:         ~ 16000
uml-sysemu   ~ 8500

regards
roland



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Henrik Nordstrom" <uml@hno.marasystems.com>
To: "roland" <for_spam@gmx.de>
Cc: "Laurent Vivier" <LaurentVivier@wanadoo.fr>; "Jeff Dike" <jdike@addtoit.com>; <user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2004 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction


> On Thu, 20 May 2004, roland wrote:
> 
> > if i run a getpid-loop inside one uml, the other uml`s behaviour becomes
> > quite sluggish - this doesn`t seem to have a relation to laurents patch - i
> > just recognized this for the first time, because i never did getpid-loops
> > inside a uml. :)
> 
> I would suspect this is due to the high dependency on context switching by 
> UML in system calls.. but I do not have a clearcut explanation.
> 
> What can be said is that applications running on the host is by far not as 
> dependent on context switching responsiveness to "feel good", and a CPU 
> hog in one UML does not cause any noticeable amount of extra context 
> switches, not much different from a CPU hog on the host in terms of 
> performance.
> 
> Regards
> Henrik
> 


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  reply	other threads:[~2004-05-20 15:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-02-29  4:35 [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction Jeff Dike
2004-02-29 16:48 ` BlaisorBlade
2004-03-15 11:42 ` Sven 'Darkman' Michels
2004-03-15 19:13   ` Jeff Dike
2004-05-17 20:08 ` roland
2004-05-17 22:00   ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-17 22:22     ` roland
2004-05-18 17:59       ` Jeff Dike
2004-05-19 17:27         ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-19 18:01           ` roland
2004-05-19 18:17             ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-19 19:39               ` roland
2004-05-19 19:49                 ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-20  2:30                   ` roland
2004-05-20 12:49                     ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-23  0:42                       ` [uml-devel] [PATCH] commandline switch for sysemu patch roland
2004-05-23 13:31                       ` [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction roland
2004-05-19 23:54               ` Jeff Dike
2004-05-20  1:01               ` roland
2004-05-20 14:12                 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-05-20 15:27                   ` roland [this message]
2004-05-20 15:35                     ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-05-19 22:40           ` Nuno Silva
2004-05-20 18:28           ` roland
2004-05-20 18:47             ` Henrik Nordstrom
2004-05-27  6:16           ` Christopher S. Aker
2004-05-27  8:22             ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-27  9:25               ` Christopher S. Aker
2004-05-27 11:50                 ` Laurent Vivier
2004-05-28  4:53                   ` [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction Benchmarks Christopher S. Aker
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2004-05-20  2:34 [uml-devel] [PATCH] host context switch reduction roland

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