From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sc8-sf-mx1-b.sourceforge.net ([10.3.1.11] helo=sc8-sf-mx1.sourceforge.net) by sc8-sf-list1.sourceforge.net with esmtp (Cipher TLSv1:DES-CBC3-SHA:168) (Exim 3.31-VA-mm2 #1 (Debian)) id 1AQt0g-0003BN-00 for ; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:43:02 -0800 Received: from smtp002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.11.33]) by sc8-sf-mx1.sourceforge.net with smtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AQt0f-0006lO-Pu for user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 01 Dec 2003 10:43:01 -0800 From: BlaisorBlade Subject: Re: [uml-devel] process start time in future References: <007501c3b535$79848d10$2000000a@schlepptopp> In-Reply-To: <007501c3b535$79848d10$2000000a@schlepptopp> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200311282042.09602.blaisorblade_spam@yahoo.it> Sender: user-mode-linux-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net Errors-To: user-mode-linux-devel-admin@lists.sourceforge.net List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: The user-mode Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2003 20:42:09 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Alle 23:26, gioved=EC 27 novembre 2003, roland ha scritto: > btw: is jeff the only person doing development or patchmerging/bugfixing > most of the time? He is not the only one who develops UML: there is a whole bunch of patches = coming in, even if he is the only one with write access to the official=20 CVS/BitKeeper(I don't know which one) repository, as long as I know. Just a= s=20 the main kernel. > is uml primarily a "one man" thing and uml dies, if jeff > looses interest one day? i don`t hope so... but i really wonder anyway, > that there is so few traffic on the mailinglists. That's not true, provided you don't compare to the LKML... > is uml still so "exotic" > that so few people actually seem to be interested? A few people? It's inside Debian(Matt Zimmerman is the maintainer), it's=20 bundled inside SuSE 9.0(we have often mail from SuSE labs) 1) it is very interesting: some things simply can't be done without it. For instance, if you have a switched LAN, instead than one with a hub, to=20 install NIDS you normally need hardware support(i.e. a port on the switch, = connected to the NIDS, replicating what goes out from another port); and th= en=20 a devoted machine, only to run Snort... 2) it's widely used and will be more, since it has been included inside=20 official 2.6(even if you still need some patches :-( ); there are various=20 hosting providers providing virtual servers using it; in Italy, for instanc= e,=20 one of these advertises on a lot of widely distributed informatic reviews..= .;=20 I've also read a lot of articles speaking about it. > maybe everybody has > vmware already... ;) VMware is not free software and since it goes emulating hardware, it should= =20 have more overhead; said that, I have no benchmark to show this. But if UML= =20 were slower, it would only need tuning. Note that normally, UML memory is p= ut=20 on a disk file, so it IS slower. But if you put /tmp on tmpfs(i.e. in RAM),= =20 this goes away. --=20 cat <