From: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
To: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>, Doug Dumitru <doug@easyco.com>,
"Vaibhav Sharma, Noida" <Vaibhavs@noida.hcltech.com>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] memory
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:41:10 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200501241941.11211.blaisorblade@yahoo.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200501230451.19196.rob@landley.net>
On Sunday 23 January 2005 10:51, Rob Landley wrote:
> On Sunday 23 January 2005 03:28 am, Doug Dumitru wrote:
> > Mr. Sharma,
> >
> > What you are trying to do will work, but not for large amounts of
> > memory. UML runs the client using a single user mode memory block as
> > the entire client's core. Thus the clients core size is limited to what
> > a single task can allocate as plain memory. With x86 architechure cpus,
> > this is 2G or 3G depending on how you build a kernel (but usually 2G).
> > There are no paging mechanism here so there is no way to make it
> > "gigabytes"
> >
> > Others can correct me if I have the exact numbers wrong.
>
> UML uses mmap (generally of a /tmp file) as physical memory. This can be
> way bigger than physical memory on the machine, sure, and the parent kernel
> will transparently use the mmaped file as backing store, demand paged and
> all that. (Just like it would for any other application.)
>
> You could run out of virtual address space, though. Trying to map more
> than a few gigabytes on a 32 bit machine is unlikely to work.
>
> Might I suggest buying a cheap x86-64 system (you can get 'em at Fry's a
> couple hundred bucks), feed it a cheap 300 gigabyte IDE drive, and have
> fun.
This is not (yet) exactly supported... a lot of work is going on this, and
somebody was even able to compile and run (successfully?) some x86_64 umls...
However, consider it still as a developer-only tool for now. 2.6.11 could
effectively be a good x86_64 tree, but do not yet use it for anything
critical.
Clearly, 32-bit UMLs run well on x86_64 boxes, but don't have the 64-bit
advantages...
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Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-01-23 6:46 [uml-devel] memory Vaibhav Sharma, Noida
2005-01-23 8:28 ` Doug Dumitru
2005-01-23 9:51 ` Rob Landley
2005-01-24 18:41 ` Blaisorblade [this message]
2005-01-23 18:27 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-01-23 18:25 ` Rob Landley
2005-01-24 10:02 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-01-24 18:52 ` Blaisorblade
2005-01-24 1:11 ` Jeff Dike
2005-01-24 5:10 ` Rob Landley
2005-01-24 10:12 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-01-24 11:31 ` Bodo Stroesser
2005-01-24 11:32 ` stian
[not found] ` <200501241811.j0OIBYXk002874@ccure.user-mode-linux.org>
2005-01-24 16:24 ` Bodo Stroesser
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-01-24 8:13 Vaibhav Sharma, Noida
2005-01-24 12:43 ` Rob Landley
2005-01-24 19:07 ` Blaisorblade
2005-01-24 22:41 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-01-25 1:40 ` Rob Landley
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