From: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
To: Rob Landley <rob@landley.net>
Cc: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] Any way to give /dev/console a controlling TTY?
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2005 16:09:14 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200509241609.15575.blaisorblade@yahoo.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200509231408.32522.rob@landley.net>
On Friday 23 September 2005 21:08, Rob Landley wrote:
> On Friday 23 September 2005 12:50, Blaisorblade wrote:
> > On Friday 23 September 2005 18:35, Rob Landley wrote:
> > > I'm the strange guy using UML via the stdio console, ala:
> > > ./linux rootfstype=hostfs MEM=48m rw init=/bin/sh
> > Ah, init=/bin/sh, that's why you have /dev/console.
> Yup. Very useful thing to do with UML, I've found. (That or
> init=/some/shell/script.sh, although it has the nasty habit of falling back
> to /sbin/init if that file is not found...)
> Unfortunately, when you do wrap a shell script, ctrl-c won't get you out.
> > I feared somebody again using /dev/console in inittab.
> Nope, trying to wrap a shell script in a UML instance so I can build and
> link against a libc with more recent kernel headers than the kernel the
> parent system is running. (Otherwise I get segfaults when the libc tries
> to do things the parent kernel doesn't support.)
> P.S. The failure case i reported earlier (where 2.6.11 works but 2.6.13.1
> doesn't) involves building the busybox "install" command against uclibc.
> That seems to be what's failing. I'm still trying to narrow down the
> reproduction case to something small enough to attach to the list, but it's
> been a busy week...)
>
> > > LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.4.1
> > >
> > > And it would be very nice if ctrl-c would work with that. I tried
> > > commenting out the "!noctty &&" test in line 1872, but it didn't make
> > > any difference.
> > >
> > > Anybody see an obvious way to make /dev/console a controlling TTY?
> >
> > Guess that /dev/console is not a TTY, so that it not possible. I mean,
> > you'd have to patch (uselessly) the very TTY core layer.
> The first test is the one I commented out, and I guess one of the next 3
> tests is still blocking it...
> > Or make Linux use /dev/tty0 instead of /dev/console when starting init -
> > which is simpler. There is maybe even a console= switch
> There is indeed a console= switch, but I haven't found a way to get it to
> do anything useful. (when I use console=/dev/tty0 it immediately exits
> with no error message.
it doesn't expect a /dev/ in front of it.
> Same for console=4,1. Strangely, console=tty0
> boots, but seems to be a NOP.)
Given what Henrik said about console being a wrapper of tty0, I expect that
you could do console=tty1 and have things go there, but /dev/console would
still behave like /dev/console (i.e. it doesn't become a controlling terminal
unless requested, to avoid Ctrl-C on init scripts). Using Henrik's ctty is
the proper solution.
> > Maybe sh doesn't even need that, but login(8) needs setsid. I never
> > remember the exact combination, however.
> The necessary magic is in the busybox init.c, but I don't see how it
> applies here...
Well, I remember something as "/bin/bash <> /dev/tty8" doesn't work without
the magic, and you need to do more or less this.
--
Inform me of my mistakes, so I can keep imitating Homer Simpson's "Doh!".
Paolo Giarrusso, aka Blaisorblade (Skype ID "PaoloGiarrusso", ICQ 215621894)
http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade
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Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-09-23 16:35 [uml-devel] Any way to give /dev/console a controlling TTY? Rob Landley
2005-09-23 17:50 ` Blaisorblade
2005-09-23 19:08 ` Rob Landley
2005-09-24 14:09 ` Blaisorblade [this message]
2005-09-25 12:49 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-09-25 15:34 ` Rob Landley
2005-09-23 18:31 ` Rob Landley
2005-09-23 18:56 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-09-23 19:08 ` Blaisorblade
2005-09-23 20:31 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-09-24 14:03 ` Blaisorblade
2005-09-24 17:37 ` Rob Landley
2005-09-24 23:14 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-09-25 0:10 ` Rob Landley
2005-09-24 14:43 ` Rob Landley
2005-09-23 18:47 ` Henrik Nordstrom
2005-09-23 18:53 ` Blaisorblade
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