linux-um archives
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Blaisorblade <blaisorblade@yahoo.it>
To: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Cc: Chris Lightfoot <chris@ex-parrot.com>, Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] ubd and write barriers
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 12:31:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200510041231.56985.blaisorblade@yahoo.it> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <HDubM/jULNDp.FiIUPkbI/sUT/mvVu1/2/A@sphinx.mythic-beasts.com>

On Tuesday 04 October 2005 11:31, Chris Lightfoot wrote:
> The current ubd implementation doesn't support write
> barriers (blk_queue_ordered etc.), and the reccomendation
> is to use synchronous IO to ensure data integrity. In
> principle, adding barrier request support ought to get
> around this problem, allowing writes without O_SYNC with
> occasional calls to fdatasync on the underlying data (the
> motivation for write barrier support was safety of
> journalling filesystems on disks with write caches, an
> analogous problem).
Yes, I more or less remembered that was the idea (from readings on lwn.net), 
thanks for confirming it.
> ext3 and reiserfs support the write barrier stuff if
> mounted with appropriate options (barrier=1 and
> barrier=flush respectively).
So they don't auto-enable this when support exists? I.e. everybody is running 
slower just because we don't add those params?
> Implementing this ought to give performance somewhere
> between ubdXs and ubdX, but with adequate guarantees of
> data integrity for use with modern filesystems. That said,
> I haven't measured this yet.

> A patch for this is pretty simple (see below). Has there
> been discussion of this before? I couldn't find any in the
> list archives....
This was discussed between me and Jeff recently, even if maybe that was 
off-list.
-- 
Inform me of my mistakes, so I can keep imitating Homer Simpson's "Doh!".
Paolo Giarrusso, aka Blaisorblade (Skype ID "PaoloGiarrusso", ICQ 215621894)
http://www.user-mode-linux.org/~blaisorblade

	

	
		
___________________________________ 
Yahoo! Mail: gratis 1GB per i messaggi e allegati da 10MB 
http://mail.yahoo.it



-------------------------------------------------------
This SF.Net email is sponsored by:
Power Architecture Resource Center: Free content, downloads, discussions,
and more. http://solutions.newsforge.com/ibmarch.tmpl
_______________________________________________
User-mode-linux-devel mailing list
User-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/user-mode-linux-devel

  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-04 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-04  9:31 [uml-devel] ubd and write barriers Chris Lightfoot
2005-10-04 10:31 ` Blaisorblade [this message]
2005-10-04 10:42   ` Chris Lightfoot
2005-10-12 22:11 ` Adam Heath

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=200510041231.56985.blaisorblade@yahoo.it \
    --to=blaisorblade@yahoo.it \
    --cc=chris@ex-parrot.com \
    --cc=jdike@addtoit.com \
    --cc=user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox