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From: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
To: John Reiser <jreiser@BitWagon.com>
Cc: uml-devel <user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] should there be os_clone() analogous to os_getpid() ?
Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 10:10:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20071209151054.GA4368@c2.user-mode-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <475B6E19.6040200@BitWagon.com>

On Sat, Dec 08, 2007 at 08:24:57PM -0800, John Reiser wrote:
>In source file arch/um/os-Linux/process.c there is a warning:
>-----
>/* Don't use the glibc version, which caches the result in TLS. It misses some
> * syscalls, and also breaks with clone(), which does not unshare the TLS.
> */
> 
>int os_getpid(void)

AFAIK, there are two reasons that we make sure we call the system call
getpid -
	when we're testing ptrace, we want getpid to result in exactly
one system call
	there was a brief bug in libc where getpid returned the wrong
answer due to caching across a clone

This bug did get into the wild, and people did try to run UML on such
systems, so that's why the code is careful about making the system call.

> I see no os_clone(), yet the glibc clone() does the same caching of pid in
> ThreadLocalStorage [TLS], and the TLS still may be shared.  If nobody reads
> glibc's shared TLS slot for PID then an actual bug will be avoided.  However,
> it is unsafe to leave such a tempting pitfall.

What's the actual bug, exactly?  As long as libc's getpid gives us the
right answer, we're happy.

> Also, if you are ptrace()ing
> through a glibc clone(), then in many cases you will see syscall(__NR_getpid)
> *from glibc* immediately following!  There is an "extra" getpid()
> that the tracking logic might not expect.

Where do we care about how clone translates into a system call?

>    arch/um/drivers/ubd_user.c
>    arch/um/kernel/tt/tracer.c
>    arch/um/os/tt.c
>    arch/um/os/start_up.c
>    arch/um/os/skas/process.c

These guys all just want a new process - they don't care how it
happens.

Is something in here causing valgrind some trouble?

				Jeff

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Work email - jdike at linux dot intel dot com

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  reply	other threads:[~2007-12-09 15:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-09  4:24 [uml-devel] should there be os_clone() analogous to os_getpid() ? John Reiser
2007-12-09 15:10 ` Jeff Dike [this message]
2007-12-09 20:58   ` John Reiser
2007-12-10 17:09     ` Jeff Dike

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