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From: Jeff Dike <jdike@addtoit.com>
To: Stanislav Meduna <stano@meduna.org>
Cc: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] /dev/random problems _not_ solved in 2.6.26
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:42:46 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080804164246.GA14805@c2.user-mode-linux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4896F8A1.6020203@meduna.org>

On Mon, Aug 04, 2008 at 02:40:01PM +0200, Stanislav Meduna wrote:
> this is just to let you know that the /dev/random problems
> are still not solved in the 2.6.26 version. A small dictionary
> attack on sshd (in my case 260 tries over 12 minutes)
> are able to produce
> 
> auth.log.0:Aug  3 05:30:35 dirk sshd[1825]: fatal: Couldn't obtain random bytes (error 
> 604389476)
> 
> and the sshd dies (followed by apache on the first subsequent
> SSL request and so on).

Off the top of my head, you need the following:
    2.6.26 UML, which you do
    rngtools installed in the UML
    sufficient entropy on the host

This last one shouldn't be taken for granted.  I had problems with
this when debugging the random driver changes - on my laptop with me
typing on it, mousing, disk going, and network traffic going in and
out.  It would be worse on a colocated, no-keyboard, no-mouse, server,
which are notorious for this problem.

> Unfortunately I can't help you in tracing the uml process
> or trying patches - this is a virtual server at my provider
> and I don't have any access there. I could try to get
> the .config file.

You could ask them about how their servers get their randomness.

If nothing else works, I suppose a nasty workaround might be to
replace /dev/random with dev/urandom, but that has security
implications.

    	      	   	 Jeff

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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-04 12:40 [uml-devel] /dev/random problems _not_ solved in 2.6.26 Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-04 16:42 ` Jeff Dike [this message]
2008-08-05 19:37   ` Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-05 21:32     ` Brock, Anthony - NET
2008-08-06  8:13       ` Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-07  9:49         ` [uml-devel] /dev/random problems .. or FP registers corruption?! Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-07 12:13           ` Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-08 12:35             ` [uml-devel] FP registers corruption Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-25 21:51               ` Jeff Dike
2008-08-26  7:20                 ` Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-26 17:46                   ` Jeff Dike
2008-08-26 18:07                     ` Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-26 18:44                       ` Jeff Dike
2008-08-26 18:51                         ` Stanislav Meduna
2008-08-27 14:59                           ` Jeff Dike
2008-09-08 12:13                           ` Stanislav Meduna
2008-09-09 22:56                             ` Stanislav Meduna
2008-09-12 20:27                               ` Stanislav Meduna

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