From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PK999-0001GQ-Cg for user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:35:55 +0000 Received: from leb.cs.unibo.it ([130.136.1.102]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) id 1PK998-00022y-6w for user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:35:55 +0000 Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 13:35:47 +0100 From: Renzo Davoli Message-ID: <20101121123547.GB589@cs.unibo.it> References: <20101118114143.GB23698@cs.unibo.it> <4CE8F332.3050205@meduna.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <4CE8F332.3050205@meduna.org> Subject: Re: [uml-devel] "New Challenges in Virtualization" devroom @ FOSDEM 2011 List-Id: The user-mode Linux development list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Errors-To: user-mode-linux-devel-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net To: Stanislav Meduna Cc: jdike@addtoit.com, user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Pros=+ Cons=- Pros(umview/kmview can be used instead)=++ Richard: - IMHO it's dead as virtualization technology. + But it's still used as playground for kernel developers. + You can easily implement and test new kernel features. Geert: + It's easy to get it running ++ I can run it without needing root access, so I can run it on any Linux machine I have an account on ++ I can use it to do things that are limited to root-only + I even use it to debug/develop code for the Amiga Zorro bus Stanislav: - From a plain user's view: basically dead: - SKAS3 is against 2.6.23 and unmaintained - SKAS4 is against 2.6.24 and marked as experimental + As a help tool to run at the workstation, yes - As a serious tool to virtualize services: no -------- >>>From this overview you can see that user-mode linux is still useful but there are new problems to address. I think that this is a good topic for a brainstorming session on user-mode linux at FOSDEM 2011. You are all invited to join the "new challenges in virtualization" dev-room, proposing talks and new ideas. nciv2011.v2.cs.unibo.it ciao renzo PS: I beg your pardon for the wrong subject in the first message of this thread. copy&paste (middle button of the mouse for X) is a powerful tool but sometimes creates damages... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1, ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 & L3. Spend less time writing and rewriting code and more time creating great experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today http://p.sf.net/sfu/msIE9-sfdev2dev _______________________________________________ User-mode-linux-devel mailing list User-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/user-mode-linux-devel