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From: "Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>
To: Geert Uytterhoeven <geert@linux-m68k.org>
Cc: user-mode-linux-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [uml-devel] Using UML in libguestfs
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2013 20:27:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130811192713.GT5918@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMuHMdX-ouj_9N1Kd6AGf_rziQ-ddZhzLaaijOvmxwxEjBoggg@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 09:05:08PM +0200, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:43 PM, Richard W.M. Jones <rjones@redhat.com> wrote:
> > * UML is pretty fast!  It's certainly faster (by a factor of > 5) than
> > spinning up a lightweight KVM VM.

> This is interesting. Typically people say you have to use KVM or XEN
> for good virtualization performance. But for that you need
> sufficient privileges.

I think this is true of Xen, but to be fair to KVM it doesn't require
special privileges, with one exception.  If you want KVM to use a tunX
network interface then you have to start it as root (or use a setuid
helper).  I think this is probably true of UML too although I've not
explored UML's networking yet.  Basically it's a restriction in Linux
itself.

> With UML, all you need is to be able to compile and run your own
> executables.

With libguestfs we specifically don't want people to use root, so UML
not requiring root was one reason why it's possible to write a
UML-based libguestfs backend.

I now have a UML backend for libguestfs working, with a significant
part of the testsuite passing too.

Rich.

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-08-11 19:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-09 20:43 [uml-devel] Using UML in libguestfs Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-09 20:57 ` richard -rw- weinberger
2013-08-09 21:31   ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-10  4:16   ` Mattia Dongili
2013-08-09 21:15 ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-09 21:18   ` Richard Weinberger
2013-08-09 21:24     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-11 19:05 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-11 19:27   ` Richard W.M. Jones [this message]
2013-08-13 11:16     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2013-08-14 17:59 ` [uml-devel] Performance tests (was: Using UML in libguestfs) Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-15 17:37   ` richard -rw- weinberger
2013-08-15 17:59     ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-15 18:41       ` richard -rw- weinberger
2013-08-15 18:59         ` Richard W.M. Jones
2013-08-15 20:31           ` richard -rw- weinberger
2013-08-16  7:54             ` Richard W.M. Jones

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