From: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@linux.dev>
To: thehajime@gmail.com
Cc: Liam.Howlett@oracle.com, hch@infradead.org,
johannes@sipsolutions.net, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-um@lists.infradead.org, ricarkol@google.com,
tiwei.bie@linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 00/13] nommu UML
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 00:36:51 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251112163651.3689244-1-tiwei.bie@linux.dev> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2bjl7y6mv.wl-thehajime@gmail.com>
On Wed, 12 Nov 2025 17:52:56 +0900, Hajime Tazaki wrote:
[...]
> > However, I'm not yet convinced that all of the complexities presented in
> > this patchset (such as completely separate seccomp implementation) are
> > actually necessary in support of _just_ the second bullet. These seem to
> > me like design choices necessary to support the _first_ bullet [1].
>
> separate seccomp implementation is indeed needed due to the design
> choice we made, to use a single process to host a (um) userspace. I
> think there is no reason to unify the seccomp part because the
> signal handlers and filter installation do the different jobs.
>
> I don't see why you see this as a _complexity_, as functionally both
> seccomp handling don't interfere each other. we have prepared
> separate sub-directories for nommu to avoid unnecessary if/else
> clauses in .c/.h files.
I have the same concern about the complexities introduced by this
patch set. The new processing paths it introduces (such as the
separate handling for FP/SSE/AVX, FS, signal, syscall, ...) add a
lot of unnecessary complexities. I think Johannes's suggestion is
a great idea.
> we haven't seen any functional regressions
> since this RFC version (which was 6.12 kernel).
I took a quick look at the code. It appears that patch 02/13 will
break the mmu build when UML_TIME_TRAVEL_SUPPORT is enabled.
Regards,
Tiwei
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-12 16:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-08 8:05 [PATCH v13 00/13] nommu UML Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 01/13] x86/um: nommu: elf loader for fdpic Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 02/13] um: decouple MMU specific code from the common part Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 03/13] um: nommu: memory handling Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 04/13] x86/um: nommu: syscall handling Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 05/13] um: nommu: seccomp syscalls hook Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 06/13] x86/um: nommu: process/thread handling Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 07/13] um: nommu: configure fs register on host syscall invocation Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 08/13] x86/um/vdso: nommu: vdso memory update Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 09/13] x86/um: nommu: signal handling Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 10/13] um: change machine name for uname output Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 11/13] um: nommu: disable SMP on nommu UML Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 12/13] um: nommu: add documentation of " Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-08 8:05 ` [PATCH v13 13/13] um: nommu: plug nommu code into build system Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-10 9:14 ` [PATCH v13 00/13] nommu UML Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-10 12:18 ` Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-11 8:01 ` Johannes Berg
2025-11-12 8:52 ` Hajime Tazaki
2025-11-12 16:36 ` Tiwei Bie [this message]
2025-11-14 6:47 ` Hajime Tazaki
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