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From: Benjamin Berg <benjamin@sipsolutions.net>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@linux.dev>
Cc: richard@nod.at, anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	 linux-um@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 tiwei.btw@antgroup.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 04/10] um: Turn signals_* into thread-local variables
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 12:35:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <263b95a673f92d1436ece3913b134f81eef3355d.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b1a57068ec7578d20dcb3b28234e4ce7ec216657.camel@sipsolutions.net> (sfid-20250911_114423_984872_A9251D1F)

On Thu, 2025-09-11 at 11:44 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Thu, 2025-09-11 at 09:37 +0200, Benjamin Berg wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Thu, 2025-09-11 at 12:34 +0800, Tiwei Bie wrote:
> > > On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 14:15:28 +0200, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > > > On Sun, 2025-08-10 at 13:51 +0800, Tiwei Bie wrote:
> > > > > From: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.btw@antgroup.com>
> > > > > 
> > > > > Turn signals_enabled, signals_pending and signals_active into
> > > > > thread-local variables. This enables us to control and track
> > > > > signals independently on each CPU thread. This is a preparation
> > > > > for adding SMP support.
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > +static __thread int signals_enabled;
> > > > 
> > > > How much glibc infrastructure does __thread rely on? More
> > > > specifically:
> > > > Some time ago we had a discussion about building UML as a nolibc
> > > > binary,
> > > > what would that mean for the __thread usage here?
> > > 
> > > We would need to parse TLS data (PT_TLS) from the ELF file ourselves
> > > and properly set up TLS when creating threads using clone().
> > 
> > I guess right now we cannot use PER_CPU variables in these files.
> 
> Maybe? The only thing would be to know which "CPU" we're executing on?
> getpid() is async signal safe (i.e. you can call it), but there could be
> better ways of doing this such as setting different signal handler
> functions in different CPUs.

There are a number of ways to solve that problem.

One way would be to use a signal stack and calculating it from the
stack pointer. Though I am still considering that we should use the
tasks stack as the signal stack, in which case we may need to track the
CPU that a task is executing on.

On 64bit, one could also use the FS/GS registers for per-CPU data. I
believe the libc uses FS only on 64bit, so we could probably already
use the GS register to for per-CPU data.

So, I am not really worried about this, we probably need a nice
solution for per-CPU data anyway.

Benjamin


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-11 10:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-10  5:51 [PATCH v2 00/10] um: Add SMP support Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] um: Stop tracking virtual CPUs via mm_cpumask() Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] um: Remove unused cpu_data and current_cpu_data macros Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] um: vdso: Implement __vdso_getcpu() via syscall Tiwei Bie
2025-09-10 11:59   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-11  4:29     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-21 20:00     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-09-22  4:50       ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-22 12:05         ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-09-22 12:12           ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-22 14:01             ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-09-22 15:14               ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-22 16:04                 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-09-22 17:07                   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-25 17:08                     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-10-21 13:20                     ` Johannes Berg
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] um: Turn signals_* into thread-local variables Tiwei Bie
2025-09-10 12:15   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-11  4:34     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  7:37       ` Benjamin Berg
2025-09-11  8:06         ` Benjamin Berg
2025-09-12  0:30           ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-12  7:58             ` Benjamin Berg
2025-09-12 13:27               ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  9:44         ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-11 10:35           ` Benjamin Berg [this message]
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] um: Determine sleep based on need_resched() Tiwei Bie
2025-09-10 12:10   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-11  4:39     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  6:59       ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-12  0:59         ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  9:27   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-12  0:54     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] um: Define timers on a per-CPU basis Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  9:49   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] um: Remove unused ipi_pipe field from cpuinfo_um Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] um: Add initial SMP support Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  9:32   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-12  0:45     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-12  7:58       ` Johannes Berg
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] asm-generic: percpu: Add assembly guard Tiwei Bie
2025-09-10 12:12   ` Johannes Berg
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] um: Enable SMP support on x86 Tiwei Bie

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