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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: "Thomas Weißschuh" <linux@weissschuh.net>
Cc: Tiwei Bie <tiwei.bie@linux.dev>,
	richard@nod.at,  anton.ivanov@cambridgegreys.com,
	benjamin@sipsolutions.net, arnd@arndb.de,
	 linux-um@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 tiwei.btw@antgroup.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 03/10] um: vdso: Implement __vdso_getcpu() via syscall
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 17:14:18 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <366bb558c3fd23b9a80008d923f29ed0234e17b9.camel@sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <21755635-74d4-4fa4-8ffd-371c17630fdf@t-8ch.de> (sfid-20250922_160212_262231_0E1FE0F0)

On Mon, 2025-09-22 at 16:01 +0200, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> Right now it does not provide any advantage over a regular syscall.
> Essentially it is just overhead. That said, if you do want to make a
> real vDSO out of it, I'd be happy to help in that.

I don't know if I'd say "just overhead" - depends on which path is more
optimised in a typical libc implementation? I'd basically think it's
identical, no? You either link to the vDSO, or a __weak same function in
the libc?

> > I mean ... on the one hand, sure, it doesn't really do much after this,
> > but OTOH it lets userspace actually use that path? So might be useful.
> 
> What advantage does userspace have from it?

Right now, none? But it's easier to play with if you have the
infrastructure, and I'm not convinced there's a _disadvantage_?

> > > Also the functionality to map the host vDSO and vsyscall page into UML
> > > userspace looks very weird and error-prone. Maybe it can also go away.
> > 
> > Surely host vDSO etc. is never mapped into UML userspace and never is,
> > not sure what you're thinking of, but clearly that's wrong as written.
> 
> This is how I understand the 32bit implementation using
> ARCH_REUSE_HOST_VSYSCALL_AREA and NEW_AUX_ENT(AT_SYSINFO_EHDR, vsyscall_ehdr)
> where vsyscall_ehdr comes from the hosts getauxval(AT_SYSINFO_EHDR).

Huh, hm, yeah I forgot about that ... 32-bit. Yeah, agree we should just
kill that. I'm not even sure it works with the host kernel trapping
there? Oh well.

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-22 15:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-10  5:51 [PATCH v2 00/10] um: Add SMP support Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] um: Stop tracking virtual CPUs via mm_cpumask() Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] um: Remove unused cpu_data and current_cpu_data macros Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] um: vdso: Implement __vdso_getcpu() via syscall Tiwei Bie
2025-09-10 11:59   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-11  4:29     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-21 20:00     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-09-22  4:50       ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-22 12:05         ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-09-22 12:12           ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-22 14:01             ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-09-22 15:14               ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2025-09-22 16:04                 ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-09-22 17:07                   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-25 17:08                     ` Thomas Weißschuh
2025-10-21 13:20                     ` Johannes Berg
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] um: Turn signals_* into thread-local variables Tiwei Bie
2025-09-10 12:15   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-11  4:34     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  7:37       ` Benjamin Berg
2025-09-11  8:06         ` Benjamin Berg
2025-09-12  0:30           ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-12  7:58             ` Benjamin Berg
2025-09-12 13:27               ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  9:44         ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-11 10:35           ` Benjamin Berg
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] um: Determine sleep based on need_resched() Tiwei Bie
2025-09-10 12:10   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-11  4:39     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  6:59       ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-12  0:59         ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  9:27   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-12  0:54     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] um: Define timers on a per-CPU basis Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  9:49   ` kernel test robot
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] um: Remove unused ipi_pipe field from cpuinfo_um Tiwei Bie
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] um: Add initial SMP support Tiwei Bie
2025-09-11  9:32   ` Johannes Berg
2025-09-12  0:45     ` Tiwei Bie
2025-09-12  7:58       ` Johannes Berg
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] asm-generic: percpu: Add assembly guard Tiwei Bie
2025-09-10 12:12   ` Johannes Berg
2025-08-10  5:51 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] um: Enable SMP support on x86 Tiwei Bie

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