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From: Jim Mattson <jmattson@google.com>
To: Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com>
Cc: "Robert O'Callahan" <robert@ocallahan.org>,
	"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>,
	"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"the arch/x86 maintainers" <x86@kernel.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	"Jeff Dike" <jdike@addtoit.com>,
	"Richard Weinberger" <richard@nod.at>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Shuah Khan" <shuah@kernel.org>,
	"Dave Hansen" <dave.hansen@linux.intel.com>,
	"Borislav Petkov" <bp@suse.de>,
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	"Len Brown" <len.brown@intel.com>,
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	"Dmitry Safonov" <dsafonov@virtuozzo.com>,
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	"kvm list" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v14 8/9] KVM: x86: virtualize cpuid faulting
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 10:15:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CALMp9eQfrbhZ-K8H3RTa75+OJggMyD+Ly_Ch0bTpazQQ7XbPEw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170208080917.24320-9-khuey@kylehuey.com>

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Kyle Huey <me@kylehuey.com> wrote:
> Hardware support for faulting on the cpuid instruction is not required to
> emulate it, because cpuid triggers a VM exit anyways. KVM handles the relevant
> MSRs (MSR_PLATFORM_INFO and MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLE) and upon a
> cpuid-induced VM exit checks the cpuid faulting state and the CPL.
> kvm_require_cpl is even kind enough to inject the GP fault for us.
>
> Signed-off-by: Kyle Huey <khuey@kylehuey.com>
> Reviewed-by: David Matlack <dmatlack@google.com>

I have a couple of concerns about portions of this patch:

1) There are some backward compatibility issues:
  A) Suppose we have an old userspace that doesn't know it needs to
zero MSR_PLATFORM_INFO to preserve existing behavior (to the extent
possible). If a VM starts on a new kernel it could set the bit in
MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES that enables CPUID faulting. On
live-migration to an old kernel, that bit would be lost.
  B) With either an old userspace or a new userspace, as a VM migrates
between old and new kernels, the behavior of RDMSR with ECX set to
either MSR_PLATFORM_INFO or MSR_MISC_FEATURES_ENABLES will vary
depending on which kernel the VM is currently running on.
  Ideally, I think this new functionality should be guarded by a KVM
capability that has to be enabled from userspace.

2) This doesn't really play well with volume 3 of the SDM, section
18.7.3, where Intel instructs developers to use
MSR_PLATFORM_INFO[15:8] to determine the TSC frequency for a variety
of microarchitectures. When reads of this MSR raised #GP, it was
pretty clear that one couldn't get the TSC frequency that way, but I
don't think many consumers would specifically check for a 0 in that
field when the RDMSR succeeds. If a guest hypervisor used that value
in the computation of the TSC scaling factor for a VMCS12, for
example, it might be surprised to get a #DE.


  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-27 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-08  8:09 [PATCH v14 0/9] x86/arch_prctl Add ARCH_[GET|SET]_CPUID for controlling the CPUID instruction Kyle Huey
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 1/9] x86/arch_prctl/64: Use SYSCALL_DEFINE2 to define sys_arch_prctl Kyle Huey
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 2/9] x86/arch_prctl/64: Rename do_arch_prctl to do_arch_prctl_64 Kyle Huey
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 3/9] x86/arch_prctl: Add do_arch_prctl_common Kyle Huey
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 4/9] x86/syscalls/32: Wire up arch_prctl on x86-32 Kyle Huey
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 5/9] x86/cpufeature: Detect CPUID faulting support Kyle Huey
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 6/9] x86/arch_prctl: Add ARCH_[GET|SET]_CPUID Kyle Huey
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 7/9] x86/arch_prctl: Selftest for ARCH_[GET|SET]_CPUID Kyle Huey
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 8/9] KVM: x86: virtualize cpuid faulting Kyle Huey
2018-07-27 17:15   ` Jim Mattson [this message]
2018-07-27 19:41   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-27 20:28     ` Jim Mattson
2018-07-27 20:46       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-27 21:03         ` Jim Mattson
2018-07-27 21:05           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-07-27 21:30             ` Jim Mattson
2018-07-27 22:58               ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-02-08  8:09 ` [PATCH v14 9/9] x86/arch_prctl: Rename 'code' argument to 'option' Kyle Huey
2017-02-10 13:07 ` [PATCH v14 0/9] x86/arch_prctl Add ARCH_[GET|SET]_CPUID for controlling the CPUID instruction Thomas Gleixner

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