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From: Frank Rowand <frowand.list@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [RFC v4 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework
Date: Mon, 18 Feb 2019 12:02:24 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a6ae907e-391b-993e-6011-6f40c761b339@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190214213729.21702-1-brendanhiggins@google.com>

On 2/14/19 1:37 PM, Brendan Higgins wrote:
> This patch set proposes KUnit, a lightweight unit testing and mocking
> framework for the Linux kernel.
> 
> Unlike Autotest and kselftest, KUnit is a true unit testing framework;
> it does not require installing the kernel on a test machine or in a VM
> and does not require tests to be written in userspace running on a host
> kernel. Additionally, KUnit is fast: From invocation to completion KUnit
> can run several dozen tests in under a second. Currently, the entire
> KUnit test suite for KUnit runs in under a second from the initial
> invocation (build time excluded).
> 
> KUnit is heavily inspired by JUnit, Python's unittest.mock, and
> Googletest/Googlemock for C++. KUnit provides facilities for defining
> unit test cases, grouping related test cases into test suites, providing
> common infrastructure for running tests, mocking, spying, and much more.
> 
> ## What's so special about unit testing?
> 
> A unit test is supposed to test a single unit of code in isolation,
> hence the name. There should be no dependencies outside the control of
> the test; this means no external dependencies, which makes tests orders
> of magnitudes faster. Likewise, since there are no external dependencies,
> there are no hoops to jump through to run the tests. Additionally, this
> makes unit tests deterministic: a failing unit test always indicates a
> problem. Finally, because unit tests necessarily have finer granularity,
> they are able to test all code paths easily solving the classic problem
> of difficulty in exercising error handling code.
> 
> ## Is KUnit trying to replace other testing frameworks for the kernel?
> 
> No. Most existing tests for the Linux kernel are end-to-end tests, which
> have their place. A well tested system has lots of unit tests, a
> reasonable number of integration tests, and some end-to-end tests. KUnit
> is just trying to address the unit test space which is currently not
> being addressed.
> 
> ## More information on KUnit
> 
> There is a bunch of documentation near the end of this patch set that
> describes how to use KUnit and best practices for writing unit tests.
> For convenience I am hosting the compiled docs here:
> https://google.github.io/kunit-docs/third_party/kernel/docs/
> Additionally for convenience, I have applied these patches to a branch:
> https://kunit.googlesource.com/linux/+/kunit/rfc/5.0-rc5/v4
> The repo may be cloned with:
> git clone https://kunit.googlesource.com/linux
> This patchset is on the kunit/rfc/5.0-rc5/v4 branch.
> 
> ## Changes Since Last Version
> 
>  - Got KUnit working on (hypothetically) all architectures (tested on
>    x86), as per Rob's (and other's) request
>  - Punting all KUnit features/patches depending on UML for now.
>  - Broke out UML specific support into arch/um/* as per "[RFC v3 01/19]
>    kunit: test: add KUnit test runner core", as requested by Luis.
>  - Added support to kunit_tool to allow it to build kernels in external
>    directories, as suggested by Kieran.
>  - Added a UML defconfig, and a config fragment for KUnit as suggested
>    by Kieran and Luis.
>  - Cleaned up, and reformatted a bunch of stuff.
> 

I have not read through the patches in any detail.  I have read some of
the code to try to understand the patches to the devicetree unit tests.
So that may limit how valid my comments below are.

I found the code difficult to read in places where it should have been
much simpler to read.  Structuring the code in a pseudo object oriented
style meant that everywhere in a code path that I encountered a dynamic
function call, I had to go find where that dynamic function call was
initialized (and being the cautious person that I am, verify that
no where else was the value of that dynamic function call).  With
primitive vi and tags, that search would have instead just been a
simple key press (or at worst a few keys) if hard coded function
calls were done instead of dynamic function calls.  In the code paths
that I looked at, I did not see any case of a dynamic function being
anything other than the value it was originally initialized as.
There may be such cases, I did not read the entire patch set.  There
may also be cases envisioned in the architects mind of how this
flexibility may be of future value.  Dunno.

-Frank

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-02-18 20:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-14 21:37 [RFC v4 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 01/17] kunit: test: add KUnit test runner core Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 02/17] kunit: test: add test resource management API Brendan Higgins
2019-02-15 21:01   ` Stephen Boyd
2019-02-19 23:24     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 03/17] kunit: test: add string_stream a std::stream like string builder Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 04/17] kunit: test: add test_stream a std::stream like logger Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 05/17] kunit: test: add the concept of expectations Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 06/17] kbuild: enable building KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 07/17] kunit: test: add initial tests Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 08/17] kunit: test: add support for test abort Brendan Higgins
2019-02-18 19:52   ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-20  3:39     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-20  6:44       ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-28  7:42         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  1:09           ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-22  1:41             ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  7:10               ` Knut Omang
2019-03-25 22:32                 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-26  7:44                   ` Knut Omang
2019-02-26 20:35   ` Stephen Boyd
2019-02-28  9:03     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-28 13:54       ` Dan Carpenter
2019-03-04 22:28         ` Brendan Higgins
     [not found]       ` <155137694423.260864.2846034318906225490@swboyd.mtv.corp.google.com>
2019-03-04 22:39         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 09/17] kunit: test: add the concept of assertions Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 10/17] kunit: test: add test managed resource tests Brendan Higgins
2019-02-15 20:54   ` Stephen Boyd
2019-02-19 23:20     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 11/17] kunit: tool: add Python wrappers for running KUnit tests Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 12/17] kunit: defconfig: add defconfigs for building " Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 13/17] Documentation: kunit: add documentation for KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 14/17] MAINTAINERS: add entry for KUnit the unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 15/17] of: unittest: migrate tests to run on KUnit Brendan Higgins
2019-02-16  0:24   ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-20  2:24     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 16/17] of: unittest: split out a couple of test cases from unittest Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  1:14   ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-22  1:45     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-14 21:37 ` [RFC v4 17/17] of: unittest: split up some super large test cases Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  1:16   ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-22  1:45     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-18 20:02 ` Frank Rowand [this message]
2019-02-20  6:34   ` [RFC v4 00/17] kunit: introduce KUnit, the Linux kernel unit testing framework Brendan Higgins
2019-02-20  6:46     ` Frank Rowand
2019-02-22 20:52       ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2019-02-28  4:18         ` Brendan Higgins
2019-02-28  4:15       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-04 23:01 ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  1:23   ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-25 22:11     ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-21  1:07 ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-03-21  5:23   ` Knut Omang
2019-03-21 15:56     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-03-21 16:55       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-21 19:13         ` Knut Omang
2019-03-21 19:29           ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-03-21 20:14             ` Knut Omang
2019-03-21 22:07   ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-21 22:26     ` Logan Gunthorpe
2019-03-21 23:33       ` Brendan Higgins
2019-03-22  1:12         ` Frank Rowand
2019-03-25 22:12           ` Brendan Higgins

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