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From: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com>
To: Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.de>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	fvogt@suse.de, iforster@suse.de,
	overlayfs <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-integrity@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: IMA xattrs not written on overlayfs
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2018 08:54:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1539003259.15382.110.camel@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOQ4uxhdMD0EtjOw-T7iAVnLgE5EMjgLOF+GYGP039QA6dKH7w@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, 2018-10-07 at 11:22 +0300, Amir Goldstein wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 5, 2018 at 1:34 PM Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.ibm.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 21:57 -0500, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
> > > On 11:52 04/10, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 2018-10-04 at 00:35 +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Right, if it's done from last fput() then it's at least not a security hole.
> > > > >
> > > > > This hack may work for some filesystems, but as you noticed, it won't
> > > > > work for overlayfs.  And  if probably won't work for a number of other
> > > > > filesystems as well: the fs can assume that f_mode & FMODE_READ will
> > > > > remain off if it was off at open time.
> > > > >
> > > > > The proper way to handle it generally is to open a separate instance
> > > > > of the same file from IMA with O_RDONLY and use that to calculate the
> > > > > hash.   There's really no point in reusing the same file and hacking
> > > > > the f_mode bits.
> > > >
> > > > Is there an appropriate low level kernel call for creating a new file
> > > > descriptor that would be appropriate?  dentry_open(), like the call in
> > > > file_clone_open(), has a lot of overhead, including the LSM calls.
> > > >  Calculating the file hash always needs to work.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Mimi,
> > >
> > > I have formulated a patch which is working for me on overlayfs. I am
> > > using dentry_open(), which I agree may have overhead. While this
> > > opens up the possibility of using it for files opened with O_DIRECT
> > > which may end up getting the file into pagecache.
> > >
> > > Subject: [PATCH] Open new file instance O_RDONLY to calculate hash
> > >
> > > Using the open struct file to calculate the hash does not work
> > > with overlayfs, because the real struct file is hidden behind the
> > > overlays struct file. So, any file->f_mode manipulations are not
> > > reflected on the real struct file. So, open the file again, read and
> > > calculate the hash.
> > >
> > > As a byproduct, we can remove all instance of f_mode manipulations
> > > and can work with O_DIRECT as well.
> > >
> > > Signed-off-by: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.com>
> >
> > By "overhead", I didn't mean it from a performance perspective, but
> > was concerned about the dentry_open() failing.  If "dentry_open" fails
> > for any reason, the file hash will not be re-calculated, causing
> > future file opens to fail.
> 
> open_with_fake_path() looks like a better fit here.
> Skips irrelevant security checks and less likely to fail.

It skips the "cred" checking, but everything else seems to be the same
including the security_ checks.

Mimi

      reply	other threads:[~2018-10-08 12:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-07 16:49 PROBLEM: IMA xattrs not written on overlayfs Ignaz Forster
2018-09-07 18:45 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-09-10  9:17   ` Ignaz Forster
2018-09-28 16:54     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-09-28 18:24       ` Ignaz Forster
2018-09-28 19:06         ` Mimi Zohar
2018-09-28 19:37         ` Fabian Vogt
2018-10-01  9:05           ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-03 21:18             ` Mimi Zohar
2018-10-03 22:35               ` Miklos Szeredi
2018-10-04 15:52                 ` Mimi Zohar
2018-10-05  2:57                   ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2018-10-05 10:33                     ` Mimi Zohar
2018-10-05 17:30                       ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2018-10-07  8:22                       ` Amir Goldstein
2018-10-08 12:54                         ` Mimi Zohar [this message]

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