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From: Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com>
To: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Miklos Szeredi <mszeredi@redhat.com>,
	linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,  linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
	Colin Walters <walters@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] ovl: make redirect/metacopy rejection consistent
Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2025 12:18:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1b196080679851d7731c0f4662d07640d483be4e.camel@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJfpegs1hKDGne7c3q4zs+O5Z4p=X3PK8yFXhyCY2iAjs4orig@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, 2025-03-25 at 11:57 +0100, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Feb 2025 at 13:01, Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Looking closer at ovl_maybe_validate_verity(), it's actually
> > worse - if you create an upper without metacopy above
> > a lower with metacopy, ovl_validate_verity() will only check
> > the metacopy xattr on metapath, which is the uppermost
> > and find no md5digest, so create an upper above a metacopy
> > lower is a way to avert verity check.
> > 
> > So I think lookup code needs to disallow finding metacopy
> > in middle layer and need to enforce that also when upper is found
> > via index.
> 
> So I think the next patch does this: only allow following a metacopy
> redirect from lower to data.
> 
> It's confusing to call this metacopy, as no copy is performed.  We
> could call it data-redirect.  Mixing data-redirect with real meta-
> copy
> is of dubious value, and we might be better to disable it even in the
> privileged scenario.
> 
> Giuseppe, Alexander, AFAICS the composefs use case employs
> data-redirect only and not metacopy, right?

The most common usecase is to get a read-only image, say for
/usr. However, sometimes (for example with containers) we have a
writable upper layer too. I'm not sure how important metacopy is for
that though, it is more commonly used to avoid duplicating things
between e.g. the container image layers. Giuseppe?

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  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-25 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-02-10 19:45 [PATCH 1/5] ovl: don't allow datadir only Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-10 19:45 ` [PATCH 2/5] ovl: remove unused forward declaration Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-11 10:02   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-10 19:45 ` [PATCH 3/5] ovl: make redirect/metacopy rejection consistent Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-11 11:13   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-11 11:46     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-11 12:00       ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-11 12:34         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-11 15:51           ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-12 16:57             ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-20  9:53               ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2025-02-20 11:25                 ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-20 11:39                   ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2025-02-20 11:47                     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-03-25 12:16                       ` Amir Goldstein
2025-03-27 15:28                         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-03-27 17:13                           ` Amir Goldstein
2025-03-27 19:23                             ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-03-28  9:04                               ` Alexander Larsson
2025-03-27 22:20                             ` Colin Walters
2025-03-25 10:57         ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-03-25 11:18           ` Alexander Larsson [this message]
2025-03-25 13:34             ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2025-03-25 13:42               ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-03-25 14:16                 ` Alexander Larsson
     [not found]             ` <CAGUVWovzT=7Gj2nj-RWC9g5_KWMzPPzAbFs9-xKWpFuh8iFTiw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-03-25 14:04               ` Alexander Larsson
2025-02-10 19:45 ` [PATCH 4/5] ovl: don't require metacopy=on for lower -> data redirect Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-11 12:08   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-10 19:45 ` [PATCH 5/5] ovl: don't require "metacopy=on" for "verity" Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-11 10:49   ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-11 12:14     ` Miklos Szeredi
2025-02-11 12:24       ` Amir Goldstein
2025-02-11 10:01 ` [PATCH 1/5] ovl: don't allow datadir only Amir Goldstein

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