From: Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>
To: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org>,
LSM <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>,
Daniel J Walsh <dwalsh@redhat.com>,
David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
pmoore@redhat.com, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] overlayfs: Use vfs_getxattr_noperm() for real inode
Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2016 09:06:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJfpegvi7rwUTG172h=HkmoadJpPDq19MOxUMGcSZnr5U_7t4w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160707183554.GB11036@redhat.com>
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 8:35 PM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 04:58:37PM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 12:54 PM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jul 06, 2016 at 06:36:49AM +0200, Miklos Szeredi wrote:
>> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 11:16 PM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Tue, Jul 05, 2016 at 01:29:39PM -0700, Casey Schaufler wrote:
>> >> >> On 7/5/2016 8:50 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>> >> >> > ovl_getxattr() currently uses vfs_getxattr() on realinode. This fails
>> >> >> > if mounter does not have DAC/MAC permission to access getxattr.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Specifically this becomes a problem when selinux is trying to initialize
>> >> >> > overlay inode and does ->getxattr(overlay_inode). A task might trigger
>> >> >> > initialization of overlay inode and we will access real inode xattr in the
>> >> >> > context of mounter and if mounter does not have permissions, then inode
>> >> >> > selinux context initialization fails and inode is labeled as unlabeled_t.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > One way to deal with it is to let SELinux do getxattr checks both on
>> >> >> > overlay inode and underlying inode and overlay can call vfs_getxattr_noperm()
>> >> >> > to make sure when selinux is trying to initialize label on inode, it does
>> >> >> > not go through checks on lower levels and initialization is successful.
>> >> >> > And after inode initialization, SELinux will make sure task has getatttr
>> >> >> > permission.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > One issue with this approach is that it does not work for directories as
>> >> >> > d_real() returns the overlay dentry for directories and not the underlying
>> >> >> > directory dentry.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Another way to deal with it to introduce another function pointer in
>> >> >> > inode_operations, say getxattr_noperm(), which is responsible to get
>> >> >> > xattr without any checks. SELinux initialization code will call this
>> >> >> > first if it is available on inode. So user space code path will call
>> >> >> > ->getxattr() and that will go through checks and SELinux internal
>> >> >> > initialization will call ->getxattr_noperm() and that will not
>> >> >> > go through checks.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > For now, I am just converting ovl_getxattr() to get xattr without
>> >> >> > any checks on underlying inode. That means it is possible for
>> >> >> > a task to get xattr of a file/dir on lower/upper through overlay mount
>> >> >> > while it is not possible outside overlay mount.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > If this is a major concern, I can look into implementing getxattr_noperm().
>> >> >>
>> >> >> This is a major concern.
>> >> >
>> >> > Hmm.., In that case I will write patch to provide another inode operation
>> >> > getxattr_noperm() and a wrapper which falls back to getxattr() if noperm
>> >> > variant is not defined. That should take care of this issue.
>> >>
>> >> That's not going to fly. A slighly better, but still quite ugly
>> >> solution would be to add a "flags" arg to the current ->getxattr()
>> >> callback indicating whether the caller wants permission checking
>> >> inside the call or not.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Ok, will try that.
>> >
>> >> But we already have the current->creds. Can't that be used to control
>> >> the permission checking done by the callback?
>> >
>> > Sorry, did not get how to use current->creds to control permission
>> > checking.
>>
>> I'm not sure about the details either. But current->creds *is* the
>> context provided for the VFS and filesystems to check permissions. It
>> might make sense to use that to indicate to overlayfs that permission
>> should not be checked.
>
> That sounds like raising capabilities of task temporarily to do
> getxattr(). But AFAIK, there is no cap which will override SELinux checks.
So a new capability can be invented for this purpose?
> I am taking a step back re-thinking about the problem.
>
> - For context mounts this is not a problem at all as overlay inode will
> get its label from context= mount option and we will not call into
> ovl_getxattr().
>
> - For non-context mounts this is a problem only if mounter is not
> privileged enough to do getattr. And that's not going to be a common
> case either.
>
> IOW, this does not look like a common case. And if getxattr() fails,
> SELinux already seems to mark inode as unlabeled_t. And my understanding
> is that task can't access unlabeled_t anyway, so there is no information
> leak.
>
> So for now, why not leave it as it is. Only side affect I seem to see
> is following warnings on console.
>
> SELinux: inode_doinit_with_dentry: getxattr returned 13 for dev=overlay ino=29147
>
> This is for information purposes only and given getxattr() can fail in
> stacked configuration, I think we can change this to KERN_DEBUG instead
> of KERN_WARNING.
I'm fine with this as well.
Thanks,
Miklos
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-08 7:06 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-05 15:50 [PATCH 0/5][RFC] Overlayfs SELinux Support Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 15:50 ` [PATCH 1/5] security, overlayfs: provide copy up security hook for unioned files Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 16:53 ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-05 17:43 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 17:20 ` kbuild test robot
2016-07-05 19:36 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-07-05 20:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-07 20:33 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-07 21:44 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-07-08 7:21 ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-07-08 12:45 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-08 13:42 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-08 15:34 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-07-05 21:35 ` Paul Moore
2016-07-05 21:52 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 22:03 ` Paul Moore
2016-07-05 15:50 ` [PATCH 2/5] security,overlayfs: Provide security hook for copy up of xattrs for overlay file Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 20:22 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-07-05 21:15 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 21:34 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-07-06 17:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-06 17:50 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-06 19:01 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-06 19:22 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-07-05 21:45 ` Paul Moore
2016-07-05 21:53 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 15:50 ` [PATCH 3/5] selinux: Pass security pointer to determine_inode_label() Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 20:25 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-07-05 21:09 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 15:50 ` [PATCH 4/5] overlayfs: Correctly label newly created file over whiteout Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 15:50 ` [PATCH 5/5] overlayfs: Use vfs_getxattr_noperm() for real inode Vivek Goyal
2016-07-05 20:29 ` Casey Schaufler
2016-07-05 21:16 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-06 4:36 ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-07-06 10:54 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-06 14:58 ` Miklos Szeredi
2016-07-07 18:35 ` Vivek Goyal
2016-07-08 7:06 ` Miklos Szeredi [this message]
2016-07-08 15:28 ` Casey Schaufler
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