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From: Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Christian Brauner <brauner@kernel.org>,
	Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	 David Sterba <dsterba@suse.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	Mike Marshall <hubcap@omnibond.com>,
	Martin Brandenburg <martin@omnibond.com>,
	Carlos Maiolino <cem@kernel.org>, Stefan Roesch <shr@fb.com>,
		linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	gfs2@lists.linux.dev, 	io-uring@vger.kernel.org,
	devel@lists.orangefs.org,  linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,  linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: re-enable IOCB_NOWAIT writes to files
Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2025 14:47:12 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <edac512451530bbe4b5f1e8baaeecdcc96e8d39b.camel@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251114152840.GD30351@lst.de>

On Fri, 2025-11-14 at 16:28 +0100, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2025 at 09:04:58AM -0500, Jeff Layton wrote:
> > This all looks pretty reasonable to me. There are a few changelog and
> > subject line typos, but the code changes look fine. You can add:
> 
> Please tell me about them so I can fix them. 
> 
> > As far as nfsd's usage of FMODE_NOCMTIME, it looks OK to me. That's
> > implemented today by the check in file_modified_flags(), which is
> > generic and should work across filesystems.
> 
> Nothing requires file_update_time / file_modified_flags are helpers
> that a file system may or may not call.  I've not done an audit
> if everyone actually uses them.

FWIW, I turned claude loose on this, and it produced:

-------------------------------8<----------------------------------
  Findings:                                                           
                                                                                                         
  1. coda_file_write_iter (fs/coda/file.c:66-94)                      
                                                                                                                                                                                                                   
  Location: fs/coda/file.c:86Issue: Manually updates ctime in
write_iter operation                                                  
  inode_set_mtime_to_ts(coda_inode,
inode_set_ctime_current(coda_inode));
  Context: This is a stacking filesystem that delegates writes to a
container file via vfs_iter_write(), then manually copies attributes
back. However, it bypasses file_update_time() or file_modified(),     
  which means it doesn't handle:                    
  - Read-only filesystem checks                                       
  - Immutable inode checks                                            
  - S_NOCMTIME flag                                                   
  - i_version updates                                                 
  - Proper dirty marking                                              
                                                                                                         
  2. efivarfs_file_write (fs/efivarfs/file.c:15-77)                   

  Location: fs/efivarfs/file.c:66Issue: Manually updates ctime in write
operation                        
  inode_set_mtime_to_ts(inode, inode_set_ctime_current(inode));
  Context: Uses the legacy .write operation (not .write_iter), but
still a write path that should use proper timestamp helpers.

  3. ocfs2_write_end_nolock (fs/ocfs2/aops.c:1926-2050)

  Location: fs/ocfs2/aops.c:2024-2026Issue: Manually updates ctime in
write_end callback
  inode_set_mtime_to_ts(inode, inode_set_ctime_current(inode));
  di->i_mtime = di->i_ctime = cpu_to_le64(inode_get_mtime_sec(inode));
  di->i_mtime_nsec = di->i_ctime_nsec =
cpu_to_le32(inode_get_mtime_nsec(inode));
  Context: This is called from OCFS2's write path. While
ocfs2_file_write_iter calls __generic_file_write_iter, the write_end
callback manually manages timestamps. This is used both by regular
writes and
  page_mkwrite via __ocfs2_page_mkwrite.

  4. ubifs_vm_page_mkwrite (fs/ubifs/file.c:1493-1580)

  Location: fs/ubifs/file.c:1570Issue: Manually updates ctime in
page_mkwrite operation
  inode_set_mtime_to_ts(inode, inode_set_ctime_current(inode));
  Context: UBIFS implements its own timestamp update logic with
mctime_update_needed() and manual budgeting for space, bypassing
file_update_time().
-------------------------------8<----------------------------------

Only ocfs2 is exportable, so I think we want to convert that one. The
others I'm not sure of yet.
-- 
Jeff Layton <jlayton@kernel.org>

  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-14 19:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-14  6:26 re-enable IOCB_NOWAIT writes to files Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 01/14] fs: refactor file timestamp update logic Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-17  6:32   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 02/14] fs: lift the FMODE_NOCMTIME check into file_update_time_flags Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-17  6:38   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 03/14] fs: export vfs_utimes Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-17  6:38   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 04/14] btrfs: use vfs_utimes to update file timestamps Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 05/14] fs: remove inode_update_time Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-17  6:59   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-19  6:25     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 06/14] organgefs: use inode_update_timestamps directly Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14 14:06   ` Jeff Layton
2025-11-14 15:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 07/14] fs: return a negative error from generic_update_time Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-17  7:07   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 08/14] fs: exit early in generic_update_time when there is no work Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 09/14] fs: factor out a mark_inode_dirty_time helper Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-17  7:13   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 10/14] fs: factor out a sync_lazytime helper Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-17  7:38   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-19  6:28     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 11/14] fs: add a ->sync_lazytime method Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-17  7:50   ` Chaitanya Kulkarni
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 12/14] fs: add support for non-blocking timestamp updates Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 13/14] xfs: implement ->sync_lazytime Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14  6:26 ` [PATCH 14/14] xfs: enable non-blocking timestamp updates Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14 15:30   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-16  8:23   ` Dave Chinner
2025-11-19  7:29     ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14 14:04 ` re-enable IOCB_NOWAIT writes to files Jeff Layton
2025-11-14 15:28   ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-11-14 19:47     ` Jeff Layton [this message]
2025-11-14 17:01   ` Darrick J. Wong
2025-11-14 17:21     ` Jeff Layton

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