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From: Gao Xiang <hsiangkao@linux.alibaba.com>
To: Giuseppe Scrivano <gscrivan@redhat.com>,
	Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com>,
	Miklos Szeredi <miklos@szeredi.hu>,
	linux-unionfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/13] Overlayfs lazy lookup of lowerdata
Date: Fri, 26 May 2023 02:03:27 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <fca36c33-a26f-cd28-2f02-71c5ea8caed0@linux.alibaba.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c16e331e-601a-51b7-f209-2fa73389bd35@linux.alibaba.com>



On 2023/5/26 10:27, Gao Xiang wrote:
> Hi Giuseppe,
> 
> On 2023/5/26 09:59, Giuseppe Scrivano wrote:
>> Hi Amir,
>>
>> Amir Goldstein <amir73il@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> On Thu, May 25, 2023 at 6:21 PM Alexander Larsson <alexl@redhat.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Something that came up about this in a discussion recently was
>>>> multi-layer composefs style images. For example, this may be a useful
>>>> approach for multi-layer container images.
>>>>
>>>> In such a setup you would have one lowerdata layer, but two real
>>>> lowerdirs, like lowerdir=A:B::C. In this situation a file in B may
>>>> accidentally have the same name as a file on C, causing a redirect
>>>> from A to end up in B instead of C.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I was under the impression that the names of the data blobs in C
>>> are supposed to be content derived names (hash).
>>> Is this not the case or is the concern about hash conflicts?
>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to have a syntax for redirects that mean "only
>>>> lookup in lowerdata layers. For example a double-slash path
>>>> //some/file.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Anything is possible if we can define the problem that needs to be solved.
>>> In this case, I did not understand why the problem is limited to finding a file
>>> by mistake in layer B.
>>>
>>> If there are several data layers A:B::C:D why wouldn't we have the same
>>> problem with a file name collision between C and D?
>>
>> the data layer is constructed in a way that files are stored by their
>> hash and there is control from the container runtime on how this is
>> built and maintained.  So a file name collision would happen only when
>> on a hash collision.
>>
>> Differently for the other layers we've no control on what files are in
>> the image, unless we limit to mount only one EROFS as the first lower
>> layer and then all the other lower layers are data layers.
>>
>> Given your example above A:B::C:D, if both A and B are EROFS we are
>> limited in the files/directories that can be in B.
> 
> If my understanding is correct (hopefully), I might ask if it's the
> proposal to pass in multiple composefs manifests (rather than one)
> all together to overlayfs in one shot?

Oh I could see the issue if a composefs manifest works with other
regular underlay layers, such redirect might need a way directly
to data layers instead of any potential underlay layer.

  reply	other threads:[~2023-05-25 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-04-27 13:05 [PATCH v2 00/13] Overlayfs lazy lookup of lowerdata Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 01/13] ovl: update of dentry revalidate flags after copy up Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 02/13] ovl: use OVL_E() and OVL_E_FLAGS() accessors Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 03/13] ovl: use ovl_numlower() and ovl_lowerstack() accessors Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 04/13] ovl: factor out ovl_free_entry() and ovl_stack_*() helpers Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 05/13] ovl: move ovl_entry into ovl_inode Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 06/13] ovl: deduplicate lowerpath and lowerstack[] Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 07/13] ovl: deduplicate lowerdata " Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 08/13] ovl: remove unneeded goto instructions Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 09/13] ovl: introduce data-only lower layers Amir Goldstein
2023-05-14 19:13   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-16 10:18     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 10/13] ovl: implement lookup in data-only layers Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 11/13] ovl: prepare to store lowerdata redirect for lazy lowerdata lookup Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 12/13] ovl: prepare for lazy lookup of lowerdata inode Amir Goldstein
2023-04-27 13:05 ` [PATCH v2 13/13] ovl: implement lazy lookup of lowerdata in data-only layers Amir Goldstein
2023-05-24 17:12 ` [PATCH v2 00/13] Overlayfs lazy lookup of lowerdata Amir Goldstein
2023-05-25 15:21 ` Alexander Larsson
2023-05-25 16:03   ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-25 16:59     ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2023-05-25 17:27       ` Gao Xiang
2023-05-25 18:03         ` Gao Xiang [this message]
2023-05-26  5:12       ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-26 11:36         ` Alexander Larsson
2023-05-26 18:27           ` Gao Xiang
2023-05-27 14:04             ` Amir Goldstein
2023-05-27 14:30               ` Gao Xiang
2023-05-29  7:22               ` Alexander Larsson
2023-05-30 14:08               ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-05-30 14:15                 ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09  7:24                   ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-06-09 10:54                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 13:42                     ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-09 13:52                       ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-06-17 17:40                         ` Amir Goldstein
2023-06-17 19:19                           ` Miklos Szeredi
2023-05-30 16:19                 ` Christian Brauner
2023-06-09  8:17                   ` Alexander Larsson
2023-06-09  9:44                     ` Christian Brauner

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