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From: Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com>
To: Doug Anderson <dianders@chromium.org>,
	Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	Stefan Wahren <stefan.wahren@i2se.com>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org,
	Ravi Chandra Sadineni <ravisadineni@chromium.org>,
	Icenowy Zheng <uwu@icenowy.me>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] usb: misc: onboard_usb_hub: Don't create platform devices for DT nodes without 'vdd-supply'
Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2023 10:00:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10807929.5MRjnR8RnV@steina-w> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y7Rh+EkKKN5Gu8sz@google.com>

Hi Matthias,

Am Dienstag, 3. Januar 2023, 18:12:24 CET schrieb Matthias Kaehlcke:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:26:26AM -0800, Doug Anderson wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 6:26 PM Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org> 
wrote:
> > > The primary task of the onboard_usb_hub driver is to control the
> > > power of an onboard USB hub. The driver gets the regulator from the
> > > device tree property "vdd-supply" of the hub's DT node. Some boards
> > > have device tree nodes for USB hubs supported by this driver, but
> > > don't specify a "vdd-supply". This is not an error per se, it just
> > > means that the onboard hub driver can't be used for these hubs, so
> > > don't create platform devices for such nodes.
> > > 
> > > This change doesn't completely fix the reported regression. It
> > > should fix it for the RPi 3 B Plus and boards with similar hub
> > > configurations (compatible DT nodes without "vdd-supply"), boards
> > > that actually use the onboard hub driver could still be impacted
> > > by the race conditions discussed in that thread. Not creating the
> > > platform devices for nodes without "vdd-supply" is the right
> > > thing to do, independently from the race condition, which will
> > > be fixed in future patch.
> > > 
> > > Fixes: 8bc063641ceb ("usb: misc: Add onboard_usb_hub driver")
> > > Link:
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/r/d04bcc45-3471-4417-b30b-5cf9880d785d@i2se.com
> > > / Reported-by: Stefan Wahren <stefan.wahren@i2se.com>
> > > Signed-off-by: Matthias Kaehlcke <mka@chromium.org>
> > > ---
> > > 
> > > Changes in v2:
> > > - don't create platform devices when "vdd-supply" is missing,
> > > 
> > >   rather than returning an error from _find_onboard_hub()
> > > 
> > > - check for "vdd-supply" not "vdd" (Johan)
> > > - updated subject and commit message
> > > - added 'Link' tag (regzbot)
> > > 
> > >  drivers/usb/misc/onboard_usb_hub_pdevs.c | 13 +++++++++++++
> > >  1 file changed, 13 insertions(+)
> > 
> > I'm a tad bit skeptical.
> > 
> > It somehow feels a bit too much like "inside knowledge" to add this
> > here. I guess the "onboard_usb_hub_pdevs.c" is already pretty
> > entangled with "onboard_usb_hub.c", but I'd rather the "pdevs" file
> > keep the absolute minimum amount of stuff in it and all of the details
> > be in the other file.
> > 
> > If this was the only issue though, I'd be tempted to let it slide. As
> > it is, I'm kinda worried that your patch will break Alexander Stein,
> > who should have been CCed (I've CCed him now) or Icenowy Zheng (also
> > CCed now). I believe those folks are using the USB hub driver
> > primarily to drive a reset GPIO. Looking at the example in the
> > bindings for one of them (genesys,gl850g.yaml), I even see that the
> > reset-gpio is specified but not a vdd-supply. I think you'll break
> > that?
> 
> Thanks for pointing that out. My assumption was that the regulator is
> needed for the driver to do anything useful, but you are right, the
> reset GPIO alone could be used in combination with an always-on regulator
> to 'switch the hub on and off'.
> 
> > In general, it feels like it should actually be fine to create the USB
> > hub driver even if vdd isn't supplied. Sure, it won't do a lot, but it
> > shouldn't actively hurt anything. You'll just be turning off and on
> > bogus regulators and burning a few CPU cycles. I guess the problem is
> > some race condition that you talk about in the commit message. I'd
> > rather see that fixed...
> 
> Yes, the race conditions needs to be fixed as well, I didn't have enough
> time to write and test a patch before taking a longer break for the
> holidays, so I only sent out this (supposed) partial mitigation.
> 
> > That being said, if we want to be more efficient and not burn CPU cycles
> > and memory in Stefan Wahren's case, maybe the USB hub driver itself could
> > return a canonical error value from its probe when it detects that it has
> > no useful job and then "onboard_usb_hub_pdevs" could just silently bail
> > out?
> 
> _probe() could return an error, however onboard_hub_create_pdevs() can't
> rely on that, since the actual onboard_hub driver might not have been
> loaded yet when the function is called.
> 
> It would be nice not to instantiate the pdev and onboard_hub USB instances
> if the DT node has neither a 'vdd-supply' nor 'reset-gpios'. If we aren't
> ok with doing that in onboard_hub_create_pdevs() then at least the 'raw'
> platform device would be created. onboard_hub_probe() could still
> bail if both properties are absent, _find_onboard_hub() would have to
> check it again to avoid the deferred probing 'loop' for the USB instances.

I'm not really fond of checking for optional features like 'vdd-supply' and 
'reset-gpios'. This issue will pop up again if some new optional feature is 
added again, e.g. power-domains.

> Alternatively we could 'just' fix the race condition involving the 'attach
> work' and the onboard_hub driver is fully instantiated even on (certain)
> boards where it does nothing. It's relatively rare that USB hub nodes are
> specified in the DT (unless the intention is to use this driver) and
> CONFIG_USB_ONBOARD_HUB needs to be set for the instances to be created,
> so maybe creating the useless instances is not such a big deal.

IMHO creating a pdev shouldn't harm in any case. It's similar to having a DT 
node without a corresponding driver enabled or even existing. Also adding USB 
devices to DT is something which is to be expected. usb-device.yaml exists 
since 2020 and the txt version since 2016.
Unfortunately I'm not able to reproduce this issue on a different platform 
where the same HUB but no reset-gpios is required. I also noticed that 
onboard-usb-hub raises the error
> Failed to attach USB driver: -22
for each hub it is supposed to support.

Best regards,
Alexander




  reply	other threads:[~2023-01-04  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-12-22  2:26 [PATCH v2 1/2] usb: misc: onboard_usb_hub: Don't create platform devices for DT nodes without 'vdd-supply' Matthias Kaehlcke
2022-12-22  2:26 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] usb: misc: onboard_hub: Fail silently when there is no platform device Matthias Kaehlcke
2022-12-22  5:50   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-22 12:21   ` Stefan Wahren
2022-12-22  5:50 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] usb: misc: onboard_usb_hub: Don't create platform devices for DT nodes without 'vdd-supply' Greg Kroah-Hartman
2022-12-22 12:19 ` Stefan Wahren
2022-12-22 19:26 ` Doug Anderson
2022-12-23  7:46   ` Icenowy Zheng
2023-01-02  9:20     ` Alexander Stein
2023-01-02 11:44       ` Stefan Wahren
2023-01-02 14:38         ` Alexander Stein
2023-01-03 17:31           ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2023-01-03 17:24     ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2023-01-03 17:12   ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2023-01-04  9:00     ` Alexander Stein [this message]
2023-01-04 19:37       ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2023-01-05  1:42         ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2023-01-05  7:50         ` Stefan Wahren
2023-01-05 19:41           ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2023-01-05 20:45         ` Matthias Kaehlcke
2022-12-23 14:01 ` Johan Hovold
2023-01-03 17:42   ` Matthias Kaehlcke

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