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From: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>
To: Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@ti.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Vinod Koul <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	Alexandre Bailon <abailon@baylibre.com>,
	Andy Shevchenko <andy.shevchenko@gmail.com>,
	Bin Liu <b-liu@ti.com>, Daniel Mack <zonque@gmail.com>,
	Felipe Balbi <felipe.balbi@linux.intel.com>,
	Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
	Johan Hovold <johan@kernel.org>, Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@ti.com>,
	Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
	Sergei Shtylyov <sergei.shtylyov@cogentembedded.com>,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	giulio.benetti@benettiengineering.com,
	Sebastian Reichel <sre@kernel.org>,
	Skvortsov <andrej.skvortzov@gmail.com>,
	Yegor Yefremov <yegorslists@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dmaengine: cppi41: Fix cppi41_dma_prep_slave_sg() when idle
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2019 13:18:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20191023201829.GR5610@atomide.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7d578fe1-2d60-4a6e-48b0-73d66c39f783@ti.com>

* Peter Ujfalusi <peter.ujfalusi@ti.com> [191023 19:55]:
> On 10/23/19 10:18 PM, Tony Lindgren wrote:
> > We'd have to allow dma consumer driver call pm_runtime_get_sync()
> > on the dma device. Something similar maybe to what we have
> > for phy_pm_runtime_get_sync(). Or just get the device handle for
> > dma so the consumer can call pm_runtime_get_sync() on it.
> 
> How much a pm_runtime_get_sync(dmadev) is different when it is issued by
> the client driver compared to when the dma driver issues it for it's own
> device?

Well the consumer device could call pm_runtime_get_sync(dmadev)
when the USB cable is connected for example, and then call
pm_runtime_pu(dmadev) when let's say the USB cable is disconnected.

Without using pm_runtime_irq_safe() we currently don't have a
clear path for doing this where the pm_runtime_get_sync(dmadev)
may sleep.

> But I still fail to see the difference between the events before this
> patch and with the case when there is a 100ms delay between prep_sg and
> issue_pending.
> 
> Before this patch:
> 
> prep_sg()
> issue_pending() <- runtime_get() /  put_autosuspend()
> 		   _not_ starting transfer
> runtime_resume() <- starts the transfer
> 
> With this patch and than 100ms delay between prep_sg and issue_pending:
> 
> prep_sg() <- runtime_get() /  put_autosuspend()
> runtime_resume() <- not starting transfer
> issue_pending() <- runtime_get() /  put_autosuspend()
> 		   starts the transfer
> 
> With this patch, but more than 100ms delay in between:
> 
> prep_sg() <- runtime_get() /  put_autosuspend()
> runtime_resume() <- not starting transfer
> > 100ms delay
> runtime_suspend()
> issue_pending() <- runtime_get() /  put_autosuspend()
> 		   _not_ starting transfer
> runtime_resume() <- starts the transfer
> 
> pm_runtime_get_sync() in issue_pending would be the solution to avoid
> delayed execution, but the usb driver should not assume that DMA is
> completed as soon as issue_pending returned.

Oh I see. Yes the consumer driver would need to check for
the completed dma transfer in all cases. The delay issues
should not currently happen in the musb_ep_program() problem
case as it gets called from IRQ context.

And no, adding pm_runtime_get_sync() to issue_pending is not
a solution. There may be clocks and regulators that need to
be powered up, and we don't want to use pm_runtime_irq_safe()
because of the permanent use count on the parent.

Regards,

Tony

  reply	other threads:[~2019-10-23 20:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-10-23 15:31 [PATCH] dmaengine: cppi41: Fix cppi41_dma_prep_slave_sg() when idle Tony Lindgren
2019-10-23 15:52 ` Vinod Koul
2019-10-23 17:04 ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-10-23 17:16   ` Tony Lindgren
2019-10-23 19:02     ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-10-23 19:18       ` Tony Lindgren
2019-10-23 19:55         ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-10-23 20:18           ` Tony Lindgren [this message]
2019-10-23 20:55             ` Grygorii Strashko
2019-10-23 21:27               ` Tony Lindgren
2019-10-23 21:43                 ` Grygorii Strashko
2019-10-23 21:49                   ` Tony Lindgren
2019-10-24  8:52             ` Peter Ujfalusi
2019-10-24 11:22               ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-10-24 14:00                 ` Tony Lindgren
2019-10-23 18:55 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2019-10-23 18:58   ` Andy Shevchenko
2019-10-23 19:19     ` Sergei Shtylyov
2019-10-23 19:00   ` Tony Lindgren

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