From: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>
To: Mario Limonciello <superm1@kernel.org>
Cc: "Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"open list : PCI SUBSYSTEM" <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list : USB XHCI DRIVER" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
"Daniel Drake" <drake@endlessos.org>, "Gary Li" <Gary.Li@amd.com>,
"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
"Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>,
"Mathias Nyman" <mathias.nyman@intel.com>,
"Mika Westerberg" <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 0/5] Verify devices transition from D3cold to D0
Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 12:12:16 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20241205181216.GA3058743@bhelgaas> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a1dafdb9-1480-480a-97f1-b43367d883fb@kernel.org>
On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 09:44:05PM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> On 12/4/2024 17:45, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 04, 2024 at 11:30:51AM -0600, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > On 8/23/2024 10:40, Mario Limonciello wrote:
> > > > From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
> > > >
> > > > Gary has reported that when a dock is plugged into a system at the same
> > > > time the autosuspend delay has tripped that the USB4 stack malfunctions.
> > > >
> > > > Messages show up like this:
> > > >
> > > > ```
> > > > thunderbolt 0000:e5:00.6: ring_interrupt_active: interrupt for TX ring 0 is already enabled
> > > > ```
> > > >
> > > > Furthermore the USB4 router is non-functional at this point.
> > > >
> > > > Those messages happen because the device is still in D3cold at the time
> > > > that the PCI core handed control back to the USB4 connection manager
> > > > (thunderbolt).
> > > >
> > > > The issue is that it takes time for a device to enter D3cold and do a
> > > > conventional reset, and then more time for it to exit D3cold.
> > > >
> > > > This appears not to be a new problem; previously there were very similar
> > > > reports from Ryzen XHCI controllers. Quirks were added for those.
> > > > Furthermore; adding extra logging it's apparent that other PCI devices
> > > > in the system can take more than 10ms to recover from D3cold as well.
> > > >
> > > > This series add a wait into pci_power_up() specifically for D3cold exit and
> > > > then drops the quirks that were previously used for the Ryzen XHCI controllers.
> > > >
> > > > Mario Limonciello (5):
> > > > PCI: Use an enum for reset type in pci_dev_wait()
> > > > PCI: Check PCI_PM_CTRL instead of PCI_COMMAND in pci_dev_wait()
> > > > PCI: Verify functions currently in D3cold have entered D0
> > > > PCI: Allow Ryzen XHCI controllers into D3cold and drop delays
> > > > PCI: Drop Radeon quirk for Macbook Pro 8.2
> > > >
> > > > drivers/pci/pci-driver.c | 2 +-
> > > > drivers/pci/pci.c | 70 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++----------
> > > > drivers/pci/pci.h | 13 ++++++-
> > > > drivers/pci/pcie/dpc.c | 2 +-
> > > > drivers/pci/quirks.c | 25 -------------
> > > > drivers/usb/host/xhci-pci.c | 11 ------
> > > > 6 files changed, 66 insertions(+), 57 deletions(-)
> > >
> > > Bjorn,
> > >
> > > This series has stalled a while.
> > >
> > > Mika and I went back and forth and I think are generally in agreement so I
> > > think it's waiting on your feedback.
> > >
> > > Can you take another look?
> > >
> > > The alternative is to add some more piles of quirks, but I'm hoping that we
> > > can go this direction and drop a bunch of the old ones instead.
> > >
> > > LMK if you want me to rebase it on 6.13-rc1 and resend a v6.
> >
> > I'm still stuck on patch 2/5 because I'm not aware of any spec
> > language about polling PCI_PM_CTRL to wait for a power state
> > transition, so it seems really ad hoc.
>
> I'm not really sure how to overcome this. If I rebase everything I'll give
> specs another read through in case I missed anything, but I suspect you know
> these specs better than anyoe on this list.
>
> Is it worth raising this to PCI-SIG to discuss?
> Did you perhaps already do that?
I haven't, but it seems like that might be appropriate. Can we
formulate a question in terms of PCIe concepts?
I guess some of the pieces are:
- ACPI puts device in D3cold
- ACPI restores device to D0
- Device is not yet in D0 when ACPI method has completed
- OS read from device causes UR or RRS, so OS reads ~0
It's much more complicated if ACPI is involved because then we have
question of whether the ACPI method should have waited.
Patch 3/5 mentions "Full context restore or boot latency" language in
PCI PM r1.2, but I couldn't find section. I don't know how a generic
spec could constrain D0->D3cold or D3cold->D0 transition time because
that depends on platform-specific power management hardware.
Bjorn
prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-12-05 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-23 15:40 [PATCH v5 0/5] Verify devices transition from D3cold to D0 Mario Limonciello
2024-08-23 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 1/5] PCI: Use an enum for reset type in pci_dev_wait() Mario Limonciello
2024-08-23 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 2/5] PCI: Check PCI_PM_CTRL instead of PCI_COMMAND " Mario Limonciello
2024-08-23 19:54 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-26 19:16 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27 17:43 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-08-27 19:44 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-08-30 0:01 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-03 16:29 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-09-03 17:11 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-03 17:31 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-09-03 18:25 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-03 18:32 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-09-03 21:32 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-09-04 12:05 ` Mika Westerberg
2024-09-04 15:24 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-09-05 9:33 ` Mika Westerberg
2024-09-09 20:40 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-09-10 9:13 ` Mika Westerberg
2024-09-13 4:12 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-09-13 4:58 ` Mika Westerberg
2024-09-13 7:23 ` Mika Westerberg
2024-09-13 20:56 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-09-15 7:07 ` Mika Westerberg
2024-08-23 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 3/5] PCI: Verify functions currently in D3cold have entered D0 Mario Limonciello
2024-08-23 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 4/5] PCI: Allow Ryzen XHCI controllers into D3cold and drop delays Mario Limonciello
2024-08-23 15:40 ` [PATCH v5 5/5] PCI: Drop Radeon quirk for Macbook Pro 8.2 Mario Limonciello
2024-12-04 17:30 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] Verify devices transition from D3cold to D0 Mario Limonciello
2024-12-04 23:45 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2024-12-05 3:44 ` Mario Limonciello
2024-12-05 18:12 ` Bjorn Helgaas [this message]
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