From: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Daniel Almeida <daniel.almeida@collabora.com>
Cc: "Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
"Alex Gaynor" <alex.gaynor@gmail.com>,
"Boqun Feng" <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
"Benno Lossin" <lossin@kernel.org>,
"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
"Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] samples: rust: add a USB driver sample
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 15:07:16 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025090629-economy-geologist-3548@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <831C4AE2-6964-4699-9E74-E4B721B87B17@collabora.com>
On Sat, Sep 06, 2025 at 09:41:16AM -0300, Daniel Almeida wrote:
>
>
> >>
> >> I thought that an iterative approach would work here, i.e.: merge this, then
> >> URBs, then more stuff, etc.
> >
> > Ah, that makes sense, I didn't realize you want that here. What USB
> > device do you want to write a rust driver for? Are you going to need
> > bindings to the usb major number, or is it going to talk to some other
> > subsystem instead?
> >
> > Right now, these bindings don't really do anything USB specific at all
> > except allow a driver to bind to a device.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > greg k-h
>
> To be honest, I'm trying to pave the way for others.
>
> I often hear people saying that they would look into Rust drivers if only they
> did not have to write all the surrounding infrastructure themselves. On the
> other hand, there is no infrastructure because there are no drivers. It's a
> chicken and egg problem that I am trying to solve.
Sure, but a framework like this (probe/disconnect), really isn't USB,
it's just driver core stuff :)
> It's also a cool opportunity to learn about USB, but I don't have any plans
> for a driver at the moment other than a instructional sample driver in Rust.
Then let's not add bindings without a real user please. We don't want
to maintain them for no good reason.
> Give me a few more weeks and I'll come up with the code for the other things
> you've pointed out.
>
> By the way, I wonder how testing would work. I tested this by plugging in my
> mouse and fiddling around with /sys/bus/usb/drivers/rust_driver_usb/new_id. I
> am not sure how this is going to work once I start looking into data transfer
> and etc. Perhaps there's a simple device out there that I should target? Or
> maybe there's a way to "fake" a USB device that would work with the sample
> driver for demonstration purposes.
You can use the usb-gadget subsystem and dummy-hcd to create a loop-back
for a virtual USB device. That's how syzbot does USB driver fuzz
testing, there should be some documentation on that somewhere in the
tree.
thanks
greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-06 13:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-25 18:18 [PATCH 0/2] rust: usb: add initial USB abstractions Daniel Almeida
2025-08-25 18:18 ` [PATCH 1/2] rust: usb: add basic " Daniel Almeida
2025-08-25 20:49 ` Benno Lossin
2025-08-25 21:03 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-23 13:21 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-23 13:31 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-23 14:03 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-23 14:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 14:38 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-23 14:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 15:06 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-23 14:58 ` Alan Stern
2025-09-23 14:13 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 14:16 ` Oliver Neukum
2025-09-23 14:22 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 14:25 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-23 14:37 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 14:42 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-23 14:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 15:46 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-23 14:18 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-08-25 18:18 ` [PATCH 2/2] samples: rust: add a USB driver sample Daniel Almeida
2025-09-06 11:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-06 12:04 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-06 12:10 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-06 12:41 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-06 13:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman [this message]
2025-09-06 14:49 ` Alan Stern
2025-09-06 14:56 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-06 13:22 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-06 14:50 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-06 15:22 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-06 15:46 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-06 15:48 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-09 11:19 ` Simon Neuenhausen
2025-09-09 12:12 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-09 13:25 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-09 12:14 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-09 13:05 ` Simon Neuenhausen
2025-08-25 20:32 ` [PATCH 0/2] rust: usb: add initial USB abstractions Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 12:05 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 12:29 ` Alice Ryhl
2025-09-23 12:31 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 12:34 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-23 12:41 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-23 12:55 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-23 12:56 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-23 13:24 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-23 21:29 ` Miguel Ojeda
2025-09-25 12:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-09-25 12:58 ` Daniel Almeida
2025-09-25 13:29 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-09-25 17:38 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
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