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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Guan-Yu Lin <guanyulin@google.com>
Cc: mathias.nyman@intel.com, hannelotta@gmail.com,
	zijun.hu@oss.qualcomm.com, xu.yang_2@nxp.com,
	stern@rowland.harvard.edu, andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com,
	ben@decadent.org.uk, quic_wcheng@quicinc.com,
	krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org, dh10.jung@samsung.com,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v15 2/4] usb: offload: add apis for offload usage tracking
Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2025 15:13:12 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2025090650-decal-canary-8e34@gregkh> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAOuDEK3KZHgY7Z2mBOuEhuUn8eLfjS5BPcx3kaMqVYLUhOavWA@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Aug 26, 2025 at 11:59:00AM +0800, Guan-Yu Lin wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2025 at 10:50 PM Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 01, 2025 at 03:39:31AM +0000, Guan-Yu Lin wrote:
> > > +
> > > +config USB_OFFLOAD
> > > +     bool "Enable USB offload feature"
> >
> > I'm confused, we already have a "USB offload feature" that went into the
> > last kernel release, why do we need a separate config option for this as
> > well?  Shouldn't this code only get built if the drivers that need it
> > select it automatically?  Forcing distros to configure this isn't
> > generally a good idea if at all possible.
> >
> 
> Based on the discussion in v13, a new, separate USB configuration
> option is required to avoid core USB functions being enabled or
> disabled via an xhci-specific option. The USB offload feature involves
> a sideband entity that can access xhci resources, which, from the USB
> driver's viewpoint, means USB transfers are offloaded to this other
> entity. Therefore, the name "USB_OFFLOAD" was chosen to reflect this
> functionality.

Again, you are increasing the number of config options here, which does
not make sense.  Why would anyone only want a subset, and not just the
whole thing?

Yes, USB_OFFLOAD only works today on xhci, and that's fine, so let's
just keep it that way.

> > > +     depends on USB
> > > +     depends on USB_XHCI_SIDEBAND_SUSPEND
> >
> > Especially because all "desktops" do not want this code selected, so
> > having it in all distros feels like a waste to me.
> >
> > thanks,
> >
> > greg k-h
> 
> For the config keywords, we could automatically select USB_OFFLOAD
> once USB_XHCI_SIDEBAND_SUSPEND is selected to reduce configuration
> efforts.

select is a nightmare to maintain and understand.  Please just reduce
configuration efforts by not adding new options at all :)

thanks,

greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-06 13:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-08-01  3:39 [PATCH v15 0/4] Support system sleep with offloaded usb transfers Guan-Yu Lin
2025-08-01  3:39 ` [PATCH v15 1/4] usb: xhci-plat: separate dev_pm_ops for each pm_event Guan-Yu Lin
2025-08-01  3:39 ` [PATCH v15 2/4] usb: offload: add apis for offload usage tracking Guan-Yu Lin
2025-08-13 14:49   ` Greg KH
2025-08-26  3:59     ` Guan-Yu Lin
2025-09-06 13:13       ` Greg KH [this message]
2025-09-11  3:56         ` Guan-Yu Lin
2025-08-01  3:39 ` [PATCH v15 3/4] xhci: sideband: add api to trace sideband usage Guan-Yu Lin
2025-08-13 14:51   ` Greg KH
2025-08-26  4:37     ` Guan-Yu Lin
2025-09-06 13:11       ` Greg KH
2025-09-11  4:13         ` Guan-Yu Lin
2025-08-01  3:39 ` [PATCH v15 4/4] usb: host: enable USB offload during system sleep Guan-Yu Lin

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