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From: Michal Pecio <michal.pecio@gmail.com>
To: Andy Shevchenko <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Niklas Neronin <niklas.neronin@linux.intel.com>,
	mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/7] usb: xhci: use '%pad' specifier for DMA address printing
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 10:12:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250913101246.515abfc4.michal.pecio@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aMRgL4fus--v4QjP@smile.fi.intel.com>

On Fri, 12 Sep 2025 21:02:23 +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote:
> Again, imagine the loop that goes above 4G on a 64-bit machine. Out
> of a sudden %08llx will be expanded to cover the 64-bit addresses and
> becomes one digit at a time creating a ladder (ugly looking) output.
> This is incorrect.

If I equated correctness with ugliness I would equally confidently
state that unnecessary zero-padding is incorrect. But I don't.
This is exactly the absurd argument I previously made for padding all
%x and %d formats to full width. Pad tables, not lone log messages.

> No, it's other way around, we should not put explicit casts in printf() in C
> as there are plenty of the format specifiers that allows us to be sure that
> the printed value is correct independently on architecture, endianess, etc.

At least if you do it, the compiler will also do the right thing:
- if the cast doesn't match the format, warn (xhci needs a patch here)
- if it matches, widen the provided value as necessary

And it works consistently regardless of whether the variable is a
dma_addr_t or u64, on all architectures, with or without PAE.

Reminder: this drivers handles DMAs as u64 too, so it will *never*
print all DMAs as %pad. And if it tries, it will be a silent bug.

> > This brings up another problem with %pad: it is unknown to compilers
> > so they don't type check it. 
> > 
> > but if I switch to %pad and later change my mind and extend 'addr' to
> > u64 without updating this format, the compiler will eat it up and once
> > again garbage will be printed on some systems.  
> 
> This topic was risen a few times in the past. Somebody proposed to have a GCC
> plugin with that, somebody else proposed to completely rewrite the %p
> extensions to be more like Pyhon or C++ ones (when you just specify argument
> and handler for it). None so far is implemented AFAIK.

Indeed, not holding my breath for the %pad situation improving.
This includes impossibility of passing it by value - it's forced
by compilers being unaware of %pad and following usual %p rules.

> But this is not particular problem of %pad, it's for all %p
> extensions. And the extensions exist for a purpose. What you are
> proposing here behind the lines is to kill that completely.

Surely people would laugh me off if I actually suggested that.
If those formats work for their cases, use them.

  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-13  8:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-03 17:01 [PATCH 0/7] usb: xhci: enhancements to address printing Niklas Neronin
2025-09-03 17:01 ` [PATCH 1/7] usb: xhci-dbgcap: correct DMA address handling Niklas Neronin
2025-09-09 10:13   ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-10  8:00     ` Neronin, Niklas
2025-09-10  8:15       ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-03 17:01 ` [PATCH 2/7] usb: xhci: use '%pad' specifier for DMA address printing Niklas Neronin
2025-09-09  9:59   ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-09 11:29     ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-09-09 20:44       ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-10  5:56         ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-11  7:41           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-09-11  9:34             ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-11 20:13               ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-09-12  9:46                 ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-12 18:02                   ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-09-13  8:12                     ` Michal Pecio [this message]
2025-09-15  7:20                       ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-09-15 10:22                         ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-15 12:32                           ` Neronin, Niklas
2025-09-16  9:32                             ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-16  9:36                               ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-15 14:22                           ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-09-10  9:04   ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-10  9:17     ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-03 17:01 ` [PATCH 3/7] usb: xhci: improve Stream Context register debugging Niklas Neronin
2025-09-09  9:23   ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-03 17:01 ` [PATCH 4/7] usb: xhci: improve Endpoint " Niklas Neronin
2025-09-09  9:20   ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-09 10:24     ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-15 12:45     ` Neronin, Niklas
2025-09-03 17:01 ` [PATCH 5/7] usb: xhci: improve Command Ring Control " Niklas Neronin
2025-09-09  9:17   ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-09 10:20     ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-03 17:01 ` [PATCH 6/7] usb: xhci: improve Event Ring Dequeue Pointer Register debugging Niklas Neronin
2025-09-03 17:01 ` [PATCH 7/7] usb: xhci: standardize address format Niklas Neronin
2025-09-09  9:06   ` Michal Pecio
2025-09-15 13:24     ` Neronin, Niklas

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