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From: Thinh Nguyen <Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Thinh Nguyen <Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com>,
	Mathias Nyman <mathias.nyman@linux.intel.com>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	"michal.pecio@gmail.com" <michal.pecio@gmail.com>,
	"oneukum@suse.com" <oneukum@suse.com>,
	"niklas.neronin@linux.intel.com" <niklas.neronin@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] xhci: prevent automatic endpoint restart after stall or error
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 2026 03:10:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260405030954.32jbg3fphi5xdla3@synopsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4e2edd9-2616-4cfe-90a5-438fb6625706@rowland.harvard.edu>

On Sat, Apr 04, 2026, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 04, 2026 at 10:28:24PM +0000, Thinh Nguyen wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 04, 2026, Thinh Nguyen wrote:
> > > On Sat, Apr 04, 2026, Alan Stern wrote:
> > > > If the class driver wants to take some other action (like submitting 
> > > > URBs to a different endpoint) before using the endpoint that stopped, 
> > > > it's free to do so.  It only has to make sure that it doesn't submit any 
> > > > URBs to the stopped endpoint until after the other action is finished -- 
> > > > which is what it would do anyway.  (And maybe it has to unlink any URBs 
> > > > that are already queued, which can be done with a simple function call.)
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > Then the xhci must make sure that it should not ring the doorbell to
> > > restart the endpoint when giving back the canceled URBs. It should only
> > > do so on newly submitted URBs.
> > 
> > Ignore this comment, it's not restarting the endpoint in the case of
> > unlinking.
> 
> I was going to say that xhci-hcd shouldn't restart the endpoint until 
> the usb_reset_endpoint() call is made.  Whether or not it rings the 
> doorbell at that time may depend on whether there are any URBs on the 
> queue; that's a relatively unimportant implementation detail.
> 
> > > We can add a requirement such that if the class driver submitted the
> > > recovery URBs prior to completing the usb_reset_endpoint (which should
> > > be done after clear-halt), then the HCD may keep those URBs on a queue
> > > and only process those URBs and restart the endpoint afterward.
> > > 
> > 
> > Actually, adding this new requirement would be tricky because we don't
> > know whether it's recovery URBs or not.
> 
> The purpose of the submitted URBs doesn't matter.  The HCD shouldn't 
> restart the endpoint until the usb_reset_endpoint() call occurs.
> 
> Also, I should point out that usbcore will call usb_clear_halt() and 
> usb_reset_endpoint(), presumably using a work queue for the calls.  The 
> class driver doesn't need to do it -- in fact, doing those things could 
> lead to errors because the endpoint may already be running (the core may 
> already have made the calls).
> 

That's good. This is what I wanted to confirm.

May need to update how xhci handles usb_reset_endpoint() because I
believe it's expected the endpoint transfer ring to be drained prior (by
the class driver unlinking URBs).

Thanks for the clarifications,
Thinh

ps. Have a good weekend! I'll be back a week after.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-05  3:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-23 12:25 [RFC PATCH 0/2] fix xhci endpoint restart at EPROTO Mathias Nyman
2026-03-23 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] xhci: prevent automatic endpoint restart after stall or error Mathias Nyman
2026-03-25  1:52   ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-03-25  9:38     ` Mathias Nyman
2026-03-26  1:19       ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-03-26 11:25         ` Mathias Nyman
2026-03-26 23:24           ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-03-30 12:51             ` Mathias Nyman
2026-03-30 14:17               ` stern
2026-03-31  9:34                 ` Mathias Nyman
2026-03-31 15:31                   ` stern
2026-04-01 22:08                     ` Mathias Nyman
2026-04-02  2:36                       ` stern
2026-04-03  1:59                         ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-04-03  2:42                           ` stern
2026-04-03  8:51                             ` Michal Pecio
2026-04-03 14:55                               ` stern
2026-04-03 19:13                                 ` xhci-hcd and URB_SHORT_NOT_OK Michal Pecio
2026-04-03 20:17                                   ` stern
2026-04-04  1:15                             ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] xhci: prevent automatic endpoint restart after stall or error Thinh Nguyen
2026-04-04  1:54                               ` stern
2026-04-04 20:41                                 ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-04-04 21:54                                   ` Alan Stern
2026-04-04 22:15                                     ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-04-04 22:28                                       ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-04-05  1:30                                         ` Alan Stern
2026-04-05  3:10                                           ` Thinh Nguyen [this message]
2026-04-07 15:23                                             ` Alan Stern
2026-04-07 20:24                                               ` Mathias Nyman
2026-04-01 22:08               ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-04-01 22:34                 ` Mathias Nyman
2026-04-01 22:47                   ` Thinh Nguyen
2026-03-23 12:25 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] xhci: Ensure URB is given back when endpoint halts on a multi-TD URB Mathias Nyman

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