From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
Cc: Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
Andreas Noever <andreas.noever@gmail.com>,
Mika Westerberg <westeri@kernel.org>,
Yehezkel Bernat <YehezkelShB@gmail.com>,
usb4-upstream@oss.qualcomm.com, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] thunderbolt: debugfs: Don't stop reading SB registers if just one fails
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2026 06:38:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260413043832.GN3552@black.igk.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1f774a46-3080-4541-8573-d2a7023bbb13@oss.qualcomm.com>
On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 07:27:34PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 4/10/26 5:10 PM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Fri, Apr 10, 2026 at 04:43:54PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> >> On 4/10/26 4:29 PM, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> >>> On 4/9/26 4:32 PM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, Apr 09, 2026 at 02:59:22PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> >>>>> On 4/9/26 2:04 PM, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> >>>
> >>> [...]
> >>>
> >>>>>> I assume you have tested this on a hardware that supports this too, right?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hardware that exposes that register this does not exercise the altered
> >>>>> code path.
> >>>>
> >>>> Well it may happen now that previously we got -EIO from some other register
> >>>> and we stopped there, now this changes and we actually continue reading so
> >>>> this definitely should be tested.
> >>>
> >>> The only register before USB4_SB_GEN4_TXFFE that isn't in-spec for
> >>> both retimers in v1.0 and v2.0 is USB4_SB_LRD_TUNING (0x07). The PS8830
> >>> interestingly reports all zeroes (not a bounce).
> >>>
> >>> The registers following USB4_SB_GEN4_TXFFE in the array are
> >>> USB4_SB_VERSION and USB4_SB_DATA. The former is not accessed anywhere
> >>> else in the code, at first glance. The latter is, during NVM r/w and
> >>> in margining ops, which have definitely been in use for a long time.
> >>>
> >>> Plus both of them are the v1.0 spec. The USB4_SB_GEN4_TXFFE specifically
> >>> isn't (the retimer supplement pdf lists it as Rsvd, the main spec pdf
> >>> omits it in the SB register table), as it wasn't previously useful (since
> >>> Gen4 came about in v2.0).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I don't think there's an easy way to limit the reading of this register
> >>> since the bit indicating Gen4 capability is in USB4_SB_LINK_CONF (0x0c),
> >>> which is Rsvd on retimers regardless of the spec revision. A connected
> >>> port could easily have higher/lower capabilities, too.
> >>
> >> Checked again, the USB4_SB_FW_VERSION (0x02) register's lowest 8 bytes
> >> are 0/1 for retimers implementing USB4v1 and 2 for v2, so we may go this
> >> path too
> >
> > I also checked from Retimer 1.0 spec and there it is still "Reserved. May
> > have non-zero value". Probably not good to rely on that.
>
> In Table 4-3 below that definition, it says:
>
> """
> Shall be set to 00h or 01h
>
> It is recommended that this field be set to 01h.
> """
Oh yeah missed that.
> But we can revisit limiting those reads another day
Agree.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-04-13 4:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-04-09 11:22 [PATCH] thunderbolt: debugfs: Don't stop reading SB registers if just one fails Konrad Dybcio
2026-04-09 12:04 ` Mika Westerberg
2026-04-09 12:59 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-04-09 14:32 ` Mika Westerberg
2026-04-10 14:29 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-04-10 14:43 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-04-10 15:10 ` Mika Westerberg
2026-04-10 17:27 ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-04-13 4:38 ` Mika Westerberg [this message]
2026-04-10 14:44 ` Mika Westerberg
Reply instructions:
You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:
* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
and reply-to-all from there: mbox
Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style
* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
switches of git-send-email(1):
git send-email \
--in-reply-to=20260413043832.GN3552@black.igk.intel.com \
--to=mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com \
--cc=YehezkelShB@gmail.com \
--cc=andreas.noever@gmail.com \
--cc=konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com \
--cc=konradybcio@kernel.org \
--cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=linux-usb@vger.kernel.org \
--cc=usb4-upstream@oss.qualcomm.com \
--cc=westeri@kernel.org \
/path/to/YOUR_REPLY
https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line
before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox