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From: Mario Limonciello <mario.limonciello@amd.com>
To: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>,
	"S, Sanath" <sanath.s@amd.com>,
	"Natikar, Basavaraj" <basavaraj.natikar@amd.com>
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, andreas.noever@gmail.com,
	westeri@kernel.org, YehezkelShB@gmail.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrei Rusu de Castro <arc@empyreal.works>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Do not warn when a reset clears ring interrupts
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2026 15:53:42 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <318bc76c-2fc9-484f-b009-1f21fbdd4d49@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260902125010.GK106095@black.igk.intel.com>



On 9/2/26 07:50, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> +Mario
> 
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 02, 2026 at 12:34:13PM +0000, Andrei Rusu de Castro wrote:
>> The AMD DMA-teardown quirk resets the host interface before USB4NET
>> stops its service rings. The reset clears ring interrupt bits while the
>> rings remain logically running. When tb_ring_stop() later disables the
>> interrupt, the register update is a no-op and emits a dev_WARN() splat.
> 
> Yes it should not do that. It's too "big hammer" and we should avoid that
> if possible. There is also the deadlock that resulted this series:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/20260825214237.4179813-1-juan.martinez@amd.com/
> 
> But that still kills the whole host interface if there are other users,
> like USB4STREAM using the rings at the same time. I suggested that we do
> the reset when the rings are idle and while they are not and we have spare
> rings we hand off those instead:
> 
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-usb/20260902054800.GI106095@black.igk.intel.com/
> 
> We still need confirmation from AMD if this even solves the problem or is
> it hanging the whole host interface and not just a single ring.

I'll let Sanath and Basavaraj double check this on the affected failure 
case.

I believe think that the whole host interface hangs when this condition 
happens.  Another way to mitigate it can be to force a power state 
transition though.  If we can force the router into D3 and back out it 
should reset the condition that could lead to a host interface hang.

> 
>> The path teardown order is required. Stopping a ring first clears its
>> descriptor base and unmaps its frame buffers, so pending path traffic
>> can no longer drain and some host routers never clear their pending bit.
>>
>> Keep the warning for genuine software-state drift. Increment a host
>> interface generation after each eligible reset and sample it when an
>> interrupt-backed ring starts. Excuse a redundant disable only when that
>> ring crossed a reset. Duplicate enables, duplicate disables without a
>> reset, rings started after a reset, ineligible resets, and double
>> software stops retain their existing warnings.
>>
>> The generation sample precedes interrupt enable while holding the NHI
>> lock. A reset racing with ring start is therefore observed as newer than
>> the sample and attributed to that ring.
>>
>> Source and call-graph analysis identified the reset and
>> ring-teardown ordering. The change was compile-tested; KUnit coverage is
>> added separately. It has not run on affected peer-host XDomain hardware
>> because the attached USB4 device is a hub and does not form that path.
> 
> This looks pretty much like LLM generated so if that's the case you should
> add proper assisted-by.
> 
> Anyways I don't think we want to do this just yet if we can avoid resetting
> the host interace behind everyones back.

The resetting host interface /should/ only really happen when unplugging 
the cable.  If it's happening in more cases, that's not intended at least.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-02 20:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-02 12:33 [PATCH 0/2] thunderbolt: suppress reset-induced ring interrupt warning Andrei Rusu de Castro
2026-09-02 12:34 ` [PATCH 1/2] thunderbolt: Do not warn when a reset clears ring interrupts Andrei Rusu de Castro
2026-09-02 12:50   ` Mika Westerberg
2026-09-02 20:53     ` Mario Limonciello [this message]
2026-09-03  3:44       ` Mika Westerberg
2026-09-02 12:34 ` [PATCH 2/2] thunderbolt: Test ring interrupt warning after host reset Andrei Rusu de Castro

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