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* Handling of USB "Programmable button" controls as KEY_MACRO# events
@ 2021-05-18 13:21 Thomas Weißschuh
  2021-05-18 13:44 ` Hans de Goede
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Weißschuh @ 2021-05-18 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-input, linux-usb, Jiri Kosina, Benjamin Tissoires,
	Hans de Goede
  Cc: linux-kernel

Hi everybody,

Would it make sense to map the "Programmable Buttons" control from the
USB HID Consumer page [0] to the linux event codes KEY_MACRO1 ... KEY_MACRO# ?

Those controls are documented in the USB spec as:

"The user defines the function of these
buttons to control software applications or GUI objects."

The KEY_MACRO event codes are documented with:

"Some keyboards have keys which do not have a defined meaning, these keys
are intended to be programmed / bound to macros by the user."

My usecase is the passing of custom keycodes from a programmable keypad
(via QMK[1]) to Linux.
(This would also need new functionality in QMK itself)

Alternatives:

* Send Raw HID from QMK
  * Con: needs a dedicated, nonstandard driver on the host
* Use F-Keys
  * Con: only F13-F19 are usable (F1-F12 are used by normal keyboards, F20-F23
    are repurposed with other keys for X11 compat)

Possible problems:

* There are 65k programmable keys defined by USB but only 30 macro keys are
  supported by Linux.

Thanks,
Thomas

[0] https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/hut1_22.pdf#section.15.14
[1] https://qmk.fm/

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* Re: Handling of USB "Programmable button" controls as KEY_MACRO# events
  2021-05-18 13:21 Handling of USB "Programmable button" controls as KEY_MACRO# events Thomas Weißschuh
@ 2021-05-18 13:44 ` Hans de Goede
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Hans de Goede @ 2021-05-18 13:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Thomas Weißschuh, linux-input, linux-usb, Jiri Kosina,
	Benjamin Tissoires
  Cc: linux-kernel

Hi,

On 5/18/21 3:21 PM, Thomas Weißschuh wrote:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Would it make sense to map the "Programmable Buttons" control from the
> USB HID Consumer page [0] to the linux event codes KEY_MACRO1 ... KEY_MACRO# ?
> 
> Those controls are documented in the USB spec as:
> 
> "The user defines the function of these
> buttons to control software applications or GUI objects."
> 
> The KEY_MACRO event codes are documented with:
> 
> "Some keyboards have keys which do not have a defined meaning, these keys
> are intended to be programmed / bound to macros by the user."
> 
> My usecase is the passing of custom keycodes from a programmable keypad
> (via QMK[1]) to Linux.
> (This would also need new functionality in QMK itself)

I think the idea is good, but AFAICT the HUT does not actually assign
any usage codes in the consumer-page for this. It simply points to the
Button usage-page, which means things conflict with e.g. mouse and joystick
buttons and I do not see any dedicated codes in the table
"Table 15.1: Consumer Page" so I'm not sure how to interpret the spec. here ...

I guess there is something which we can do with the report's application here,
since the code dealing with HID_UP_BUTTON is already doing a switch-case
on field->application to differentiate between mouse and gaming buttons.

I guess interpreting an application of HID_CP_CONSUMER_CONTROL in combination
with using the buttons usage-page as wat the HUT is trying to specify and
thus map that the first 30 codes in that combination to KEY_MACRO1 - 30
might make sense.

Regards,

Hans




> 
> Alternatives:
> 
> * Send Raw HID from QMK
>   * Con: needs a dedicated, nonstandard driver on the host
> * Use F-Keys
>   * Con: only F13-F19 are usable (F1-F12 are used by normal keyboards, F20-F23
>     are repurposed with other keys for X11 compat)
> 
> Possible problems:
> 
> * There are 65k programmable keys defined by USB but only 30 macro keys are
>   supported by Linux.
> 
> Thanks,
> Thomas
> 
> [0] https://www.usb.org/sites/default/files/hut1_22.pdf#section.15.14
> [1] https://qmk.fm/
> 


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