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HDDs not working under Linux via USB 3.0 but under Windows To: Alan Stern Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org References: <512118bc-e639-2387-e608-56b7e30fc3b2@pre-sense.de> <20200523154817.GA7091@rowland.harvard.edu> <34933b01-e4b0-10da-c935-9e6a9a6ae427@pre-sense.de> <20200523203349.GA12853@rowland.harvard.edu> From: =?UTF-8?Q?Till_D=c3=b6rges?= Autocrypt: addr=doerges@pre-sense.de; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsFNBFf3cXkBEAC5LdEcPeHSvMw94QTRs9fdasHpCm5qrVlvZhSeJLmz8bjxkhwzyNmQUCyT ZPA3CTjDgevt9Bf55QFJsm5PIEw7XKdz0TyLt5RkefM87wzny0zuKRwY+8hi+wZ72cYwJomQ O667x+/khboagQos5GInp8UrAL33eoN7N/1z9NnZpLf1Yq0Gcy1MfeGsYNxeosVoeZG0iW8p mUe+bAR7brKFuZhl/JNQzkn6xIKJ4jA7xZBIHqRtZ/KrwPskDWO5Pa5X3Kp37JjFnSPqeCW1 gdHLJUjl78mK2wzuDTXam1vidFgrtHS1oNeZ0AGjTaK88Din1DprAPj3TeVrSVff60diMO3w JoxsAJ1wJCjEIi3VfCf/KQAMBEm//+UuuvHg+PNY7VOzMIqwnOa+D9gtUbM/YPthK+hHHKXE /yKH7w+1sTgiPZUD0LSXwZ+K+SXXHEtSZsm9BHn1+TX4ik8fWPuQHfd1Tu9L83iEnQyi1twS pVCBKgwJ7rnMRGat5u2icpAlPJMWtF9GF/2IZL1KcRAMRk/ckxfR9rpdm6722kTzGDRQcZ8S 1JjkBysKpCmSw0ukhNgtpSAGeAu3Rdc1wFKUuTcvXekPsCARuBfkwjav+LFXy22LKw9j9IZS L2khi3/14XEYkb3Em4mYDX+DHpepJ0kNH+VGiA8kgIWWS+hOVQARAQABzSNUaWxsIERvZXJn ZXMgPGRvZXJnZXNAcHJlLXNlbnNlLmRlPsLBpgQTAQoAOQIbAwMLCQMCFQoFFgIDAQACHgEC F4AWIQTvEOSugkiJrfgUnlBO9SfZ885jpgUCW3bZ3wUJB30i5gAhCRBO9SfZ885jphYhBO8Q 5K6CSImt+BSeUE71J9nzzmOmS6EP/0SkQs27d+iUl5LAbc8HBittpriwzjwHjwJ+7s57xaEO a8C+b+SCZPvBWxlGEppBYqaZuWp7oExJpwnFBBswdtcCaZh29o52NIx36cM1MQc5JdfVNLkZ gPQZ0dizu08GeGzrJvdzIwpx5x1/rrkPFpSmctu1KudZOl2X+LYfpV/ucKmRRKAaqfoKquox hreIUkVqSg8oHL3+qF/+GP730cdk8QLrV3wIymwr/9CkSYmIC1eCX/rPyzLd+185BJlTB0yx fSPm47raEzIyOd08AYia16mVWecNI6d2qp+la3CpTG78cq4Q4+68wlc7jrHh0Q59bB2WODKV kibvwRK0l0M4z1r4UJzTq7ayAD5gTcZ7/kUVroAR0yrKY8cRE/s3cmoJ3RJOeUspBIvxUfNt HST24u/iQA0/CvQMWInChSQmI+ydu31+Oy+8MSTBYGQgKs4H9YVblZvVnbI5LquVxU9EWy6g EkMvoVOWjfaEK/O6KLLe3blfJts2gOqWUuQ7LQb3n/y4aXUieFOFcBt1Mm5Bs4/mAO8GBy1v 30uzbfPl3vV2lvW+rSFyHbP3313Vheyo3+C+eFtAfz+6p54nfvyd20D9DLhT22EmSVo0kKC6 T4oXX/6tnhKIaWbwC3tym41NwsCXV+9wnONX7MTodiB79OJ6kswFiSruR90h3mTuzsFNBFf3 cXkBEADp2XL6gto5rVrFbsp/qaXzfYOCKgHb+WwBMu2Sbw/W0qQL+3Hcd6DoVTKOQTtShh/m tMSoIe2xBtKoei+9EuzbmUnHbdOafvNxXgRTbyVe0QO1UZDyqqx2kS/ZLiezOBxJS9MpjO5s b4/bqUvtFrRsxIPPxPT9xwUStZXc+JJniCy9Xl8JAbOf72K8O8tgGgiEjTbVV+Dpjy8Wb3bx rgS9v28unef/tO1QAOWNywrNgQmC2ogHVdrfYHgnYlBzzOcgNibexYPcPzhxHkaixCM4tDSL +aENCNgri1BvPC7A/VqbP/1NTswIkZ7esN3Pu3mNgdNjP25A9j3bdhIQMRPUJDQ+srZqdxVT A9Yx1HnB/9Y/g20KBxfKpXCwBWR8UrN66BDIyxhwzQH9AW4UbK3PgWCG/ldaIWOZft10xJN7 TXCnUmbfS8EmmBMcjb/IG2aUleEvAVopY6nb3x2JsKBtUqoGRc9iAa0UCJW/bYcy20HrZOgQ Rqu34EOja4hh4dZeMNOabaQh08rmx2hpxolUpXPKKhFz8kIjI1S/X4G6/yrcX9L0kCc59ZGY IurJQMGzxeNTFv0nSBKk9dxc0b+bpWR1eIcbMhp+VbCMVgmjbF4H+4SxrE8qj8xpEirx4h/L tO55oirsAfWfBm2XiOlcGQEHsiSVO4jWX8yX/0CjuQARAQABwsGTBBgBCgAmAhsMFiEE7xDk roJIia34FJ5QTvUn2fPOY6YFAlt22kwFCQd9I1MAIQkQTvUn2fPOY6YWIQTvEOSugkiJrfgU nlBO9SfZ885jpl+WEACysQF6rouqHurPth7IBuylwR8JJrvbC0KCiGVqGXsl9LUxOgSgOiEA Gc+9pzpuX5/T/AmDmvbkZh8zG4ynea33SRQIIpK+RsjgzYk6EO4AmcO5WThQIWiUmMVk8LL9 T2ycO1f43Zh6M1N3+ujNLTo0DNq/vL+tC2EnlbVE4smFH5uVVK1NNsJmLbIxwIYdwfZlJhZ1 hipEXE/OWP0gJ0LmHh+2RGddbzzeTrgEzK2Mp4iI3YvkDd1f7iwLgAkfo1fJulCpOo9cDLTw KdaId2xKUwvucnkDElV2R60M+I4IEb1lnfRfJ8gyqG5H5SLy5uAhvB+pUEOZqrwo0/4MEcDU EExSqA1jpyhmjI1RU3PZBKT5CW3SDED++28t+G5pFxLfIKL3QCPOuRUEvA5C125cDVWzX2uT A95fTYIzJfECt1EiTSHN4AJe6GaUcZEBlGDCsY+RPJ0RxPOVUAgRZ2shvJFizj6qr0XVAsuB eXBTnCvLdbqjAsAJbKEfpoA7sA84B/tYnFZYzTua1EgZtBqzxNjyph04k10glvGeDm+iL1b4 QuDrHzQBg3CbhndmRP82DN0ADY0lrhHCclpYSYTwZub+36agWFr1h3QVwP8Suu0ss3ISXM76 HE3rjB1BJoHR/bllfpTSlA/vy/ZSt9O0wrcoJXQaMArPFU5JXEKOPQ== Organization: PRESENSE Technologies GmbH Message-ID: <816c9c46-6845-e09f-9c67-ecd2427eb9c4@pre-sense.de> Date: Sun, 24 May 2020 09:46:06 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20200523203349.GA12853@rowland.harvard.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: de-DE Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: linux-usb-owner@vger.kernel.org Precedence: bulk List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org Am 23.05.20 um 22:33 schrieb Alan Stern: >>>> I'm trying to get external HDDs from Sony to work under Linux with USB 3.0. >> [...] >>>> - PSZ-HA2T: idVendor=054c, idProduct=087d >>>> - PSZ-HA1T: idVendor=054c, idProduct=087d >>>> - PSZ-HA50: idVendor=054c, idProduct=087d >>>> - PSZ-HC1T: idVendor=054c, idProduct=0c4f [...] >> Because with setting the f flag (via options usb-storage quirks=054c:087d:f) the >> PSZ-HA*1*T starts behaving nicely. [...] >> The PSZ-HA*2*T, however, still doesn't work with that. [...] > That device seems to be behaving so badly, it's hard to tell what the > underlying problem is. > > I'd start by blacklisting the device for UAS, so forcing it to use > usb-storage, which is a somewhat simpler protocol. Next, you should > collect a usbmon trace showing what happens when you plug in the > PSZ-HA2T. That will tell us what's going on, even if it doesn't suggest > a way to work around the problems. > > (The instructions for usbmon are in the kernel source file > Documentation/usb/usbmon.rst.) Thanks. Will give that a shot. Is there any way to differentiate between devices other than vendor and product ID? Because the PSZ-HA1T (which seems to be working thanks to your help) and the PSZ-HA2T (which still refuses to work) have the *same* vendor and product ID. Regards -- Till -- Dipl.-Inform. 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