From: Pierre-Louis Bossart <pierre-louis.bossart@linux.intel.com>
To: Wesley Cheng <quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>,
mathias.nyman@intel.com, gregkh@linuxfoundation.org,
lgirdwood@gmail.com, broonie@kernel.org, perex@perex.cz,
tiwai@suse.com, agross@kernel.org, andersson@kernel.org,
konrad.dybcio@linaro.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org, conor+dt@kernel.org,
srinivas.kandagatla@linaro.org, bgoswami@quicinc.com,
Thinh.Nguyen@synopsys.com
Cc: linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
alsa-devel@alsa-project.org, linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 00/34] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2023 15:58:20 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <9942bb93-31ea-4574-940f-98d87a2fc127@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20231017200109.11407-1-quic_wcheng@quicinc.com>
It's been a very long time since I reviewed earlier versions, and I am
still lost on terminology and concepts. The explanations below should
really be added as a .rst file in Documentation for reference, not just
as a cover letter.
> Several Qualcomm based chipsets can support USB audio offloading to a
> dedicated audio DSP, which can take over issuing transfers to the USB
> host controller. The intention is to reduce the load on the main
> processors in the SoC, and allow them to be placed into lower power modes.
> There are several parts to this design:
> 1. Adding ASoC binding layer
> 2. Create a USB backend for Q6DSP
"backend" is a loaded terms for ASoC. Can you clarify which part of the
ascii art below is a 'backend'?
> 3. Introduce XHCI interrupter support
> 4. Create vendor ops for the USB SND driver
>
> USB | ASoC
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> | _________________________
> | |sm8250 platform card |
> | |_________________________|
> | | |
> | ___V____ ____V____
> | |Q6USB | |Q6AFE |
> | |"codec" | |"cpu" |
> | |________| |_________|
> | ^ ^ ^
> | | |________|
> | ___V____ |
> | |SOC-USB | |
> ________ ________ | | |
> |USB SND |<--->|QC offld|<------------>|________| |
> |(card.c)| | |<---------- |
> |________| |________|___ | | |
> ^ ^ | | | ____________V_________
> | | | | | |APR/GLINK |
> __ V_______________V_____ | | | |______________________|
> |USB SND (endpoint.c) | | | | ^
> |_________________________| | | | |
> ^ | | | ___________V___________
> | | | |->|audio DSP |
> ___________V_____________ | | |_______________________|
> |XHCI HCD |<- |
> |_________________________| |
>
>
> Adding ASoC binding layer:
> soc-usb: Intention is to treat a USB port similar to a headphone jack.
What is a 'port'? USB refers to "interfaces" and "endpoints". Is a
"port" a 1:1 mapping to "endpoint"?
Below I read "AFE port" so not sure what concepts refer to what.
> The port is always present on the device, but cable/pin status can be
> enabled/disabled. Expose mechanisms for USB backend ASoC drivers to
> communicate with USB SND.
>
> Create a USB backend for Q6DSP:
> q6usb: Basic backend driver that will be responsible for maintaining the
The asciiart above suggests that q6usb exposes a codec DAI - but the
backend dailink is created by the platform card?
> resources needed to initiate a playback stream using the Q6DSP. Will
is capture supported? there's explicit references to "num_capture" in
following patches.
> be the entity that checks to make sure the connected USB audio device
> supports the requested PCM format. If it does not, the PCM open call will
> fail, and userpsace ALSA can take action accordingly.
>
> Introduce XHCI interrupter support:
> XHCI HCD supports multiple interrupters, which allows for events to be routed
> to different event rings. This is determined by "Interrupter Target" field
> specified in Section "6.4.1.1 Normal TRB" of the XHCI specification.
>
> Events in the offloading case will be routed to an event ring that is assigned
> to the audio DSP.
>
> Create vendor ops for the USB SND driver:
> qc_audio_offload: This particular driver has several components associated
> with it:
> - QMI stream request handler
> - XHCI interrupter and resource management
> - audio DSP memory management
>
> When the audio DSP wants to enable a playback stream, the request is first
> received by the ASoC platform sound card. Depending on the selected route,
> ASoC will bring up the individual DAIs in the path. The Q6USB backend DAI
> will send an AFE port start command (with enabling the USB playback path), and
> the audio DSP will handle the request accordingly.
what about capture, e.g. for a headset?
> Part of the AFE USB port start handling will have an exchange of control
> messages using the QMI protocol. The qc_audio_offload driver will populate the
> buffer information:
> - Event ring base address
> - EP transfer ring base address
>
> and pass it along to the audio DSP. All endpoint management will now be handed
> over to the DSP, and the main processor is not involved in transfers.
>
> Overall, implementing this feature will still expose separate sound card and PCM
> devices for both the platorm card and USB audio device:
typo: platform
> 0 [SM8250MTPWCD938]: sm8250 - SM8250-MTP-WCD9380-WSA8810-VA-D
> SM8250-MTP-WCD9380-WSA8810-VA-DMIC
How do you plan on exposing the USB PCM device?
The lines above are really cryptic, and with no USB reference in any of
the short/long card names it's not obvious that this card is different
from the no-offload case, is it?
> 1 [Audio ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio
> Generic USB Audio at usb-xhci-hcd.1.auto-1.4, high speed
likewise some sort of qualifier would be useful to show that card 0 and
card 1 can target the same USB endpoints.
> This is to ensure that userspace ALSA entities can decide which route to take
> when executing the audio playback. In the above, if card#1 is selected, then
> USB audio data will take the legacy path over the USB PCM drivers, etc...
>
> This feature was validated using:
> - tinymix: set/enable the multimedia path to route to USB backend
> - tinyplay: issue playback on platform card
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-10-17 23:23 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-10-17 20:00 [PATCH v9 00/34] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 01/34] xhci: split free interrupter into separate remove and free parts Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 02/34] xhci: add support to allocate several interrupters Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 03/34] xhci: add helper to stop endpoint and wait for completion Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 04/34] xhci: sideband: add initial api to register a sideband entity Wesley Cheng
2023-10-25 3:24 ` Albert Wang
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 05/34] usb: host: xhci-mem: Cleanup pending secondary event ring events Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 06/34] usb: host: xhci-mem: Allow for interrupter clients to choose specific index Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 07/34] ASoC: Add SOC USB APIs for adding an USB backend Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 21:48 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 2:07 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 08/34] ASoC: dt-bindings: qcom,q6dsp-lpass-ports: Add USB_RX port Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 09/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Introduce USB AFE port to q6dsp Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 21:32 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 1:45 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-18 13:47 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 19:36 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-19 1:00 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19 18:42 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 10/34] ASoC: qdsp6: q6afe: Increase APR timeout Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 11/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add USB backend ASoC driver for Q6 Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 21:46 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 12/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Introduce USB SND platform op callbacks Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 13/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Export USB SND APIs for modules Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 14/34] dt-bindings: usb: xhci: Add num-hc-interrupters definition Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 15/34] dt-bindings: usb: dwc3: Limit " Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 16/34] usb: dwc3: Specify maximum number of XHCI interrupters Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 17/34] usb: host: xhci-plat: Set XHCI max interrupters if property is present Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 18/34] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Add USB QMI definitions Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 19/34] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Introduce QC USB SND offloading support Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 23:21 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 20/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Check for support for requested audio format Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:29 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 20:21 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 21/34] ASoC: usb: Add PCM format check API for USB backend Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:33 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 20:33 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 22/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Ensure PCM format is supported by USB audio device Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 23/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Prevent starting of audio stream if in use Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:37 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 20:33 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:00 ` [PATCH v9 24/34] ASoC: dt-bindings: Add Q6USB backend Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 25/34] ASoC: dt-bindings: Update example for enabling USB offload on SM8250 Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 26/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: q6afe: Split USB AFE dev_token param into separate API Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:39 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19 0:10 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 27/34] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Populate PCM and USB chip information Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:41 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19 0:59 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 28/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add support to track available USB PCM devices Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:43 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19 1:00 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 29/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add SND kcontrol to select offload device Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:50 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19 1:39 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 30/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add SND kcontrol for fetching offload status Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 22:53 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-19 1:41 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-19 19:25 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-19 20:39 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 31/34] ASoC: qcom: qdsp6: Add headphone jack for offload connection status Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 23:03 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 32/34] ALSA: usb-audio: qcom: Use card and PCM index from QMI request Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 33/34] ALSA: usb-audio: Allow for rediscovery of connected USB SND devices Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 23:07 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-17 20:01 ` [PATCH v9 34/34] ASoC: usb: Rediscover USB SND devices on USB port add Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 23:11 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-23 21:54 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-24 13:35 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-25 22:31 ` Wesley Cheng
2023-10-17 20:58 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart [this message]
2023-10-18 0:25 ` [PATCH v9 00/34] Introduce QC USB SND audio offloading support Wesley Cheng
2023-10-18 13:54 ` Pierre-Louis Bossart
2023-10-18 20:20 ` Wesley Cheng
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