is usb.ids used anymore?

is usb.ids used anymore?

[James]

I am trying to get usb.ids updated.

There is a link to here:
http://www.linux-usb.org/usb-ids.html

It says the text file is updated daily but the last update was Version: 
2022.05.20.

Is that file even used anymore?

I did the web update and I sent a diff -u to linux.usb.ids@gmail.com
but I didn't receive a confirmation to the email and the ids show up in 
the web interface but there are no names associated.
The link to the maintainer is no longer valid. :-(

Wouldn't it be easier to keep in a github if it is still used?

Re: is usb.ids used anymore?

[Greg KH]

On Sun, Oct 16, 2022 at 08:02:59PM -0400, James wrote:
> I am trying to get usb.ids updated.
> 
> There is a link to here:
> http://www.linux-usb.org/usb-ids.html
> 
> It says the text file is updated daily but the last update was Version:
> 2022.05.20.

Maybe that's just the last update that was needed.

> Is that file even used anymore?
> 
> I did the web update and I sent a diff -u to linux.usb.ids@gmail.com

The web form should work, did you try that?

> but I didn't receive a confirmation to the email and the ids show up in the
> web interface but there are no names associated.

What do you mean by this?

> The link to the maintainer is no longer valid. :-(

What link?

> Wouldn't it be easier to keep in a github if it is still used?

Why is github easier?

And yes, it is still used, the hardware database ids in
/lib/udev/hwdb.d/ on your system is based on it.

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: is usb.ids used anymore?

[James]

>> but I didn't receive a confirmation to the email and the ids show up in the
>> web interface but there are no names associated.
>
> What do you mean by this?

I tried to add:
7961 MT7921AU 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wireless Adapter

7961 shows up but the description/name is blank on:
https://usb-ids.gowdy.us/read/UD/0e8d

I also tried to add 0608  the 7921k USB Bluetooth portion of a pci card.

Someone else added 2870 but it doesn't show a name either.

I expected to get an email back acknowledging my diff submission.
I did it on the website too.


>
>> The link to the maintainer is no longer valid. :-(
>
> What link?

It says "This site maintained by Stephen J. Gowdy." and has a link to http://cern.ch/gowdy which is 404 not found.


>
>> Wouldn't it be easier to keep in a github if it is still used?
>
> Why is github easier?

It tracks the commits of who added what.
I guess it would be harder for people who haven't used git.


Should it say:
802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wireless
or should it say:
Wifi 6
?

Re: is usb.ids used anymore?

[Greg KH]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 02:36:55PM +0000, James wrote:
> 
> >> but I didn't receive a confirmation to the email and the ids show up in the
> >> web interface but there are no names associated.
> >
> > What do you mean by this?
> 
> I tried to add:
> 7961 MT7921AU 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wireless Adapter
> 
> 7961 shows up but the description/name is blank on:
> https://usb-ids.gowdy.us/read/UD/0e8d
> 
> I also tried to add 0608  the 7921k USB Bluetooth portion of a pci card.

I don't understand, how is a USB device part of a PCI device?

What does 'lsusb' show for these devices?

> Someone else added 2870 but it doesn't show a name either.

Is there a name in the device itself?  That's the best place for this
information, and is why USB added strings to the configuration
descriptors, so that no external tool should ever really be needed.

> I expected to get an email back acknowledging my diff submission.
> I did it on the website too.

I do not think emails are sent back, but it's been a while since I last
looked at it.

> >> The link to the maintainer is no longer valid. :-(
> >
> > What link?
> 
> It says "This site maintained by Stephen J. Gowdy." and has a link to http://cern.ch/gowdy which is 404 not found.

There might be an email address on the file itself if you really want to
contact them.

> >> Wouldn't it be easier to keep in a github if it is still used?
> >
> > Why is github easier?
> 
> It tracks the commits of who added what.
> I guess it would be harder for people who haven't used git.
> 
> 
> Should it say:
> 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wireless
> or should it say:
> Wifi 6
> ?

I have no idea, what does the device itself say?

Again, there is no real need to add new devices to this file, unless
the strings in the device are somehow wrong and you want the userspace
tools to display the updated version instead.

thanks,

greg k-h

Re: is usb.ids used anymore?

[James]

>> I tried to add:
>> 7961 MT7921AU 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wireless Adapter
>>
>> 7961 shows up but the description/name is blank on:
>> https://usb-ids.gowdy.us/read/UD/0e8d

0e8d:7961 MediaTek Inc. Wireless_Device
>>
>> I also tried to add 0608  the 7921k USB Bluetooth portion of a pci card.
> I don't understand, how is a USB device part of a PCI device?
The PCI device is a wireless card that has a chipset that also supports 
Bluetooth and the PCI device has a USB cable that connects to the 
motherboard to support the Bluetooth part.
The wireless radio is connected via PCI and the Bluetooth radio is 
connected via USB.
>
> What does 'lsusb' show for these devices?
0e8d:0608 MediaTek Inc. Wireless_Device
>
>> Someone else added 2870 but it doesn't show a name either.
> Is there a name in the device itself?  That's the best place for this
> information, and is why USB added strings to the configuration
> descriptors, so that no external tool should ever really be needed.
Is the name in the device put there by the manufacturer of the device 
(eg. Comfast/Netgear) or is the name stored in the chipset used (eg. 
MediaTek)?

I have an Alfa Networks AWUS036ACM that shows in lsusb as:
0e8d:7612 MediaTek Inc. MT7612U 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wireless Adapter
I was suspicious they (MediaTek) don't embed a detailed name in the 
device (just "Wireless_Device") so
I removed:
usb:v0E8Dp7612*
  ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=MT7612U 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wireless Adapter
from:
/lib/udev/hwdb.d/20-usb-vendor-model.hwdb
and I also tried to override the name in /etc/udev/hwdb.d/
Neither worked.

I copied that directive to make one for 0E8D:7961 but that didn't work 
either. :-(
usb:v0E8Dp7961*
  ID_MODEL_FROM_DATABASE=MT7612U 802.11a/b/g/n/ac/ax Wireless Adapter

>>>> The link to the maintainer is no longer valid. :-(
>>> What link?
>> It says "This site maintained by Stephen J. Gowdy." and has a link to http://cern.ch/gowdy which is 404 not found.
> There might be an email address on the file itself if you really want to
> contact them.

Can you please just let him know about the broken link?