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From: Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
To: Eli Billauer <eli.billauer@gmail.com>
Cc: devel@driverdev.osuosl.org, dan.carpenter@oracle.com,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	arnd@arndb.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] staging: Add driver for XillyUSB (Xillybus variant for USB)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2021 12:13:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YFh77/L3o4MbuQxi@kroah.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <60587922.2040903@gmail.com>

On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 01:01:54PM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote:
> Hello, Greg.
> 
> Thanks for your comments. I'd like to address a couple of them.
> 
> First, there's the lockless FIFO that is implemented in the driver:
> 
> On 21/03/21 14:23, Greg KH wrote:
> > 
> > > +
> > > +static unsigned int fifo_read(struct xillyfifo *fifo,
> > > +			      void *data, unsigned int len,
> > > +			      int (*copier)(void *, const void *, int))
> > > +{
> > > +	unsigned int done = 0;
> > > +	unsigned int todo = len;
> > > +	unsigned int fill;
> > > +	unsigned int readpos = fifo->readpos;
> > > +	unsigned int readbuf = fifo->readbuf;
> > > +
> > > +	fill = atomic_read(&fifo->fill);
> > And the number changed right after reading it :(
> > 
> > Again, no atomics, use a lock please.
> > 
> > This is a USB device, you are NOT doing high-speed data transfers at
> > all.
> > 
> The current XillyUSB hardware is USB 3.0 based, running at ~400 MB/s, and
> this is just the beginning. For comparison, when the PCIe-based Xillybus
> started at 200 MB/s, I didn't believe it would reach 6.6 GB/s.
> 
> So that's why I made the effort to implement a lockless FIFO, with all the
> extra synchronization fuss. And yes, it works perfectly, and has been
> heavily fuzz tested on an x86_64 machine. The memory barriers are carefully
> placed to make this work on less favorable platforms as well, but even if I
> got it wrong -- odds are that the fix will be a line or two.
> 
> Replacing atomics with spinlocks is a piece of cake, of course. But given
> this extra information, do you still think it's a good idea?

Trying to review this code is hard, if not impossible because of the
structure.  Again, USB interfaces are slow, a "custom lockless FIFO" is
something for the core kernel to implement, not for a random individual
driver, to ensure it is working properly.

And it seems like an overkill, are you sure those locks are a slowdown?

thanks,

greg k-h

      reply	other threads:[~2021-03-22 11:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-03-11  9:50 [PATCH v4 0/2] Submission of XillyUSB driver eli.billauer
2021-03-11  9:50 ` [PATCH v4 1/2] char: xillybus: Move class-related functions to new xillybus_class.c eli.billauer
2021-03-21 12:24   ` Greg KH
2021-03-22 11:02     ` Eli Billauer
2021-03-22 11:11       ` Greg KH
2021-03-23 12:05         ` Eli Billauer
2021-03-28 11:46           ` Greg KH
2021-03-21 12:24   ` Greg KH
2021-03-11  9:50 ` [PATCH v4 2/2] staging: Add driver for XillyUSB (Xillybus variant for USB) eli.billauer
2021-03-21 12:23   ` Greg KH
2021-03-22 11:01     ` Eli Billauer
2021-03-22 11:13       ` Greg KH [this message]

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