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From: Mika Westerberg <mika.westerberg@linux.intel.com>
To: "Tomasz Moń" <desowin@gmail.com>
Cc: Stefan Hoffmeister <stefan.hoffmeister@gmail.com>,
	Heikki Krogerus <heikki.krogerus@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Thunderbolt: One missing DisplayPort?
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 08:04:30 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YpmWXl5Y/VToYFvJ@lahna> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <92ab08fe65c12d6159966bdd7d2c4215044a00ff.camel@gmail.com>

On Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 09:34:27PM +0200, Tomasz Moń wrote:
> On Mon, 2022-05-30 at 12:54 +0300, Mika Westerberg wrote:
> > On Mon, May 30, 2022 at 10:33:06AM +0200, Tomasz Moń wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2022-05-29 at 21:51 +0200, Stefan Hoffmeister wrote:
> > > > I have managed to wedge the system into a state where it does not
> > > > know about Thunderbolt, and now, on what I presume to be USB-C only
> > > > ("usb_typec_revision" == 1.2? Seems ... low?), both DisplayPort
> > > > outputs on the docking station are now active, and I do get
> > > > meaningful entries from the DRM subsystem (and hence X). I am half-
> > > > way happy: I want exactly that over Thunderbolt for the bandwidth ;)
> > > 
> > > Could you please tell how did you wedge the system into a state where
> > > it does not know about Thunderbolt?
> > > 
> > > > Now, when I unwedge the system to enable Thunderbolt again
> > > 
> > > I am curious about the wedge/unwedge procedure.
> > 
> > Probably just connecting the dock using non-Thunderbolt Type-C cable.
> > That will enter USB (+DP altmode) or so instead of Thunderbolt altmode.
> 
> How do I determine that the cable is non-Thunderbolt Type-C?

It does not have that "lightning" logo on the connector.

> I have tried with two different brands 1m USB Type-C cables that are
> not advertised as Thunderbolt. Both cables are electronically marked
> and 5A capable. When the docking station is connected using these
> cables, it operates in Thunderbolt mode.

Oh, yeah it is possible actually that with a passive type-C cable that
it still enters TBT/USB4 mode (20G). I think.

> If the device was operating in USB (+DP altmode), I assume that boltctl
> would show that the docking station status as disconnected?

Correct.

> Can I read the cable EMCA details in Linux?

This I don't know.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-06-03  5:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-20 10:22 Thunderbolt: One missing DisplayPort? Stefan Hoffmeister
2022-05-24 10:55 ` Heikki Krogerus
2022-05-24 11:04   ` Mika Westerberg
2022-05-27  6:24     ` Stefan Hoffmeister
2022-05-27  9:10       ` Mika Westerberg
2022-05-28 14:29         ` Stefan Hoffmeister
2022-05-29 19:51         ` Stefan Hoffmeister
2022-05-30  8:33           ` Tomasz Moń
2022-05-30  9:54             ` Mika Westerberg
2022-05-30 18:57               ` Stefan Hoffmeister
2022-05-31  9:36                 ` Mika Westerberg
2022-05-31 19:45                   ` Stefan Hoffmeister
2022-06-01 10:51                     ` Mika Westerberg
2022-06-02 19:34               ` Tomasz Moń
2022-06-03  5:04                 ` Mika Westerberg [this message]
2022-06-08 14:27                   ` Tomasz Moń
2022-06-11 16:29                     ` Tomasz Moń
2022-06-07 17:28                 ` Stefan Hoffmeister
2022-05-30 18:02             ` Stefan Hoffmeister

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