From: Danilo Krummrich <dakr@kernel.org>
To: Benno Lossin <benno.lossin@proton.me>
Cc: "Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Lyude Paul" <lyude@redhat.com>,
"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael@kernel.org>,
"Alexander Lobakin" <aleksander.lobakin@intel.com>,
"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
"Bjorn Helgaas" <bhelgaas@google.com>,
"Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
"Liam Girdwood" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
"Lukas Wunner" <lukas@wunner.de>,
"Mark Brown" <broonie@kernel.org>,
"Maíra Canal" <mairacanal@riseup.net>,
"Robin Murphy" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
"Simona Vetter" <simona.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
"Zijun Hu" <quic_zijuhu@quicinc.com>,
linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org,
"Miguel Ojeda" <miguel.ojeda.sandonis@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/9] rust/kernel: Add faux device bindings
Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2025 19:18:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z6pDEyDcmhxqE0U4@pollux> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c00ee85d-8e8f-4d59-9c90-af5fd35cc4ac@proton.me>
On Mon, Feb 10, 2025 at 04:32:15PM +0000, Benno Lossin wrote:
> On 10.02.25 13:30, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
> > From: Lyude Paul <lyude@redhat.com>
> >
> > This introduces a module for working with faux devices in rust, along with
> > adding sample code to show how the API is used. Unlike other types of
> > devices, we don't provide any hooks for device probe/removal - since these
> > are optional for the faux API and are unnecessary in rust.
>
> For me it would be useful to know why this is the case. I looked at the
> dummy regulator driver and it still has a `probe` function. Presumably,
> because it has to wait until other resources are usable and that is the
> case once `probe` gets called. But doesn't the same hold for Rust? Or
> are Rust modules loaded later than C modules? Because if I were to
> rewrite the regulator driver in Rust (assuming we had the abstractions),
> the `probe` code would be put into the `Module::init` function, right?
> Or am I missing something?
AFAICS, the only reason for the dummy regulator driver to have probe() is
because it calls devm_regulator_register() (which given that it neither ever
removes the driver nor the device is meaningless, but let's ignore that).
Actually, not even that would be a blocker, since the same would be valid as
long as you ensure to call devm_*() after faux_device_create() and before
faux_device_remove(). But obviously, it's way cleaner to enforce this through
having the scope of the probe() callback.
In Rust we only need devres for real device resources, which a faux device can
never have. Given the example above, in Rust we wouldn't have anything like
devm_regulator_register(), but a module structure with a regulator::Registration
member, such that the registration is automatically removed when the module is
dropped.
I cannot predict if we ever gonna need probe() for the faux bus in Rust. Maybe
at some point we will, and then we can add the corresponding abstraction. But
for now, I don't see what we would need it for.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-02-10 18:19 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-02-10 12:30 [PATCH v4 0/9] Driver core: Add faux bus devices Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 1/9] driver core: add a faux bus for use when a simple device/bus is needed Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 14:29 ` Kurt Borja
2025-02-10 14:45 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 14:58 ` Kurt Borja
2025-02-10 15:36 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 15:52 ` Kurt Borja
2025-02-11 5:50 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-11 20:06 ` Lyude Paul
2025-02-11 21:57 ` Kurt Borja
2025-02-11 15:29 ` Zijun Hu
2025-02-11 15:49 ` Kurt Borja
2025-02-12 7:39 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 17:56 ` Kurt Borja
2025-02-11 7:27 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-11 7:33 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-11 7:43 ` Kurt Borja
2025-02-11 8:17 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-11 8:36 ` Kurt Borja
2025-02-11 2:49 ` Zijun Hu
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 2/9] rust/kernel: Add faux device bindings Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 16:32 ` Benno Lossin
2025-02-10 18:18 ` Danilo Krummrich [this message]
2025-02-11 5:52 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 18:41 ` Lyude Paul
2025-02-10 21:31 ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-02-12 14:58 ` Gary Guo
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 3/9] regulator: dummy: convert to use the faux device interface Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 4/9] x86/microcode: move away from using a fake platform device Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 5/9] wifi: cfg80211: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 6/9] tlclk: convert to use faux_device Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 7/9] misc: lis3lv02d: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 8/9] drm/vgem/vgem_drv " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-25 11:38 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-02-26 8:18 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-02-10 12:30 ` [PATCH v4 9/9] drm/vkms: " Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-10 14:37 ` Louis Chauvet
2025-02-10 14:49 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-25 11:41 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-02-25 13:51 ` Louis Chauvet
2025-02-26 10:07 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-03-11 17:20 ` José Expósito
2025-03-11 17:24 ` José Expósito
2025-03-12 6:22 ` Greg KH
2025-03-13 14:22 ` Simona Vetter
2025-03-13 17:20 ` José Expósito
2025-06-13 8:15 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-06-13 11:55 ` José Expósito
2025-06-13 12:33 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-06-13 15:28 ` José Expósito
2025-06-13 15:39 ` Thomas Zimmermann
2025-02-27 13:06 ` [PATCH v4 0/9] Driver core: Add faux bus devices Louis Chauvet
2025-02-27 15:18 ` Andy Shevchenko
2025-02-27 15:30 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-02-28 10:38 ` Simona Vetter
2025-02-28 11:27 ` José Expósito
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