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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: "Krzysztof Hałasa" <khalasa@piap.pl>
Cc: netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>, Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
	Andrew Lunn <andrew+netdev@lunn.ch>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>, Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	linux-usb@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Jose Ignacio Tornos Martinez <jtornosm@redhat.com>,
	Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] PHY: Fix no autoneg corner case
Date: Wed, 27 Nov 2024 18:37:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <c57a8f12-744c-4855-bd18-2197a8caf2a2@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3plmhhx6d.fsf@t19.piap.pl>

On Wed, Nov 27, 2024 at 09:56:42AM +0100, Krzysztof Hałasa wrote:
> phydev->autoneg appears to indicate if autonegotiation is enabled or
> not.

Correct.

> Unfortunately it's initially set based on the supported capability
> rather than the actual hw setting.

We need a clear definition of 'initially', and when does it actually
matter.

Initially, things like speed, duplex and set to UNKNOWN. They don't
make any sense until the link is up. phydev->advertise is set to
phydev->supported, so that we advertise all the capabilities of the
PHY. However, at probe, this does not really matter, it is only when
phy_start() is called is the hardware actually configured with what it
should advertise, or even if it should do auto-neg or not.

In the end, this might not matter.

> While in most cases there is no
> difference (i.e., autoneg is supported and on by default), certain
> adapters (e.g. fiber optics) use fixed settings, configured in hardware.

If the hardware is not capable of supporting autoneg, why is autoneg
in phydev->supported? To me, that is the real issue here.

	Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2024-11-27 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-27  8:56 [PATCH] PHY: Fix no autoneg corner case Krzysztof Hałasa
2024-11-27 17:37 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2024-11-28  6:31   ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2024-11-28 14:54     ` Andrew Lunn
2024-11-28 19:35       ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-11-29  6:17       ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2024-11-29  6:49         ` Heiner Kallweit
2024-12-02  7:57           ` Krzysztof Hałasa
2025-03-19 21:00             ` Heiner Kallweit

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