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From: Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>
To: Pavel Hofman <pavel.hofman@ivitera.com>
Cc: Jaroslav Kysela <perex@perex.cz>,
	"alsa-devel@alsa-project.org" <alsa-devel@alsa-project.org>,
	Julian Scheel <julian@jusst.de>, Jack Pham <jackp@codeaurora.org>,
	"linux-usb@vger.kernel.org" <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	John Keeping <john@metanate.com>,
	Ruslan Bilovol <ruslan.bilovol@gmail.com>,
	Yunhao Tian <t123yh.xyz@gmail.com>,
	Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: Correct stopping capture and playback substreams?
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2022 13:15:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <s5ho84tm2vv.wl-tiwai@suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fbd19fee-343c-c5c6-d426-02ccaa497f7f@ivitera.com>

On Mon, 03 Jan 2022 12:32:53 +0100,
Pavel Hofman wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Dne 03. 01. 22 v 10:10 Jaroslav Kysela napsal(a):
> > On 03. 01. 22 9:22, Pavel Hofman wrote:
> >>
> >> Dne 23. 12. 21 v 9:18 Pavel Hofman napsal(a):
> >>> Hi Takashi,
> >>>
> >>> I am working on stopping alsa streams of audio USB gadget when USB host
> >>> stops capture/playback/USB cable unplugged.
> >>>
> >>> For capture I used code from AK4114 SPDIF receiver
> >>> https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/sound/i2c/other/ak4114.c#L590: 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> static void stop_substream(struct uac_rtd_params *prm)
> >>> {
> >>>       unsigned long _flags;
> >>>       struct snd_pcm_substream *substream;
> >>>
> >>>       substream = prm->ss;
> >>>       if (substream) {
> >>>           snd_pcm_stream_lock_irqsave(substream, _flags);
> >>>           if (snd_pcm_running(substream))
> >>>               // TODO - correct handling for playback substream?
> >>>               snd_pcm_stop(substream, SNDRV_PCM_STATE_DRAINING);
> >>>           snd_pcm_stream_unlock_irqrestore(substream, _flags);
> >>>       }
> >>> }
> >>>
> >>> For setup I found calling snd_pcm_stop(substream, SNDRV_PCM_STATE_SETUP)
> >>> (https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/staging/vc04_services/bcm2835-audio/bcm2835-pcm.c#L63) 
> >>>
> >>>    Or for both capture and playback using SNDRV_PCM_STATE_DISCONNECTED
> >>> (https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/sound/core/pcm.c#L1103).
> >>>
> >>> Or perhaps using snd_pcm_dev_disconnect(dev) or snd_pcm_drop(substream)?
> >>>
> >>> Please what is the recommended way?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Please can I ask for expert view on this issue? E.g. in SoX stopping the
> >> stream with SNDRV_PCM_STATE_SETUP/SNDRV_PCM_STATE_DRAINING does not stop
> >> the application, while with SNDRV_PCM_STATE_DISCONNECTED SoX exits with
> >> non-recoverable status. I am considering implementing both methods and
> >> letting users choose their suitable snd_pcm_stop operation (none
> >> (default)/SETUP-DRAINING/DISCONNECTED) for the two events (host
> >> playback/capture stop, cable disconnection) with a configfs param. Would
> >> this make sense?
> >
> > The disconnection state is unrecoverable. It's expected that the
> > device will be freed and cannot be reused.
> >
> > If you expect to keep the PCM device, we should probably introduce a
> > new function which puts the device to the SNDRV_PCM_STATE_OPEN
> > state. In this state, all I/O routines will return -EBADFD for the
> > applications, so they should close or re-initialize the PCM device
> > completely.
> >
> > https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/sound/core/pcm_native.c#L794
> >
> 
> The fact is that after closing the USB host can re-open the device
> with different samplerate (and perhaps later on with different
> channels count/sample size). That would hint at the need to
> re-initialize the gadget side before opening  anyway.
> 
> As of keeping the device - it's likely some use cases would prefer
> keeping the device, to minimize the operations needed to react to the
> host-side playback/capture start.
> 
> A function you describe would make sense for this. IMO from the gadget
> POW there is no difference  between the host stopping playback/capture
> and cable disconnection, in both cases the data stream is stopped and
> next stream can have entirely different parameters. Maybe the gadget
> configfs parameter could only toggle between no action (i.e. current
> situation) and the new alsa function stopping the stream.
> 
> Jaroslav, please can you draft such a function? Perhaps both changes
> could make it to 5.17.

(Sorry for the delayed response, as I've been on vacation and now
catching up the huge pile of backlogs...)

About the change to keep PCM OPEN state: I'm afraid that the
disconnection in the host side may happen at any time, and keeping the
state OPEN would confuse the things if the host is indeed
unrecoverable.  That said, from the safety POV, the complete
card-level disconnection would make sense, which has, of course, a
clear downside for the smooth transition in the application as you
described above.  But most applications should handle such a
disconnection in anyway for the normal USB-audio devices that face
more or less the same problem.


thanks,

Takashi

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-03 12:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <448e059f-fbac-66ed-204b-f6f9c2c19212@ivitera.com>
2022-01-03  8:22 ` Correct stopping capture and playback substreams? Pavel Hofman
2022-01-03  9:10   ` Jaroslav Kysela
2022-01-03 11:32     ` Pavel Hofman
2022-01-03 12:15       ` Takashi Iwai [this message]
2022-01-03 12:28         ` Jaroslav Kysela
2022-01-03 12:36           ` Takashi Iwai
2022-01-03 12:54           ` Pavel Hofman
2022-01-04 15:57             ` John Keeping
2022-01-04 16:21               ` John Keeping
2022-01-05 12:07                 ` Pavel Hofman
2022-01-03 12:44         ` Pavel Hofman

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