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From: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: Alexey Klimov <klimov.linux@gmail.com>,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, wim@linux-watchdog.org,
	USB list <linux-usb@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	atishp@rivosinc.com, atishp@atishpatra.org,
	Yury Norov <yury.norov@gmail.com>,
	Alexey Klimov <aklimov@redhat.com>,
	Aaron Tomlin <atomlin@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5] watchdog: add driver for StreamLabs USB watchdog device
Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2022 10:17:08 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <YuaO5Gx84zonjq7X@rowland.harvard.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20220731082055.GA4008925@roeck-us.net>

On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 01:20:55AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 31, 2022 at 03:34:16AM +0100, Alexey Klimov wrote:
> > On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 8:48 AM Oliver Neukum <oneukum@suse.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 26.07.22 02:21, Alexey Klimov wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 9:51 AM Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jul 25, 2022 at 04:06:05AM +0100, Alexey Klimov wrote:
> > > >
> > > > [..]
> > > >
> > > >> Anyway, driver looks good to me, nice work!
> > > >>
> > > >> Reviewed-by: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Greg. If you don't mind I'll use your tag in next version
> > > > after making changes suggested by Guenter since there will be no
> > > > significant functional changes. If code will change a lot, then the
> > > > process (Documentation/process/submitting-patches.rst) will require me
> > > > to drop the tag.
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > while thinking about this a question arose. How does this
> > > device react to a USB reset? A watchdog that can be disabled
> > > by a simple reset does not like very reliable to me.
> > > Do you need to implement pre/post_reset() ?
> > 
> > You're right. Upon reset the watchdog is disabled even if it was active before.
> > Adding empty ->pre_reset() and ->post_reset() helps to avoid that, but
> > looking at Documentation and other drivers it seems that I need to do:
> > in pre_reset():
> > mutex_lock() to block any other I/O to the usb device;
> > __usb_streamlabs_wdt_cmd(STOP) to stop the watchdog;
> > and do not unlock the mutex;
> > 
> > in post_reset():
> > if (watchdog_active())
> >         __usb_streamlabs_wdt_cmd(START);
> > mutex_unlock() to allow other's I/O to the usb deivce.
> > 
> > Seems right?
> > 
> Not necessarily. Is other code doing something similar ?
> Using a mutex like this creates the risk for hung tasks.

Are mutexes intended to be used in situations where one function 
acquires the lock, then returns, and then a different function releases 
the lock?  I'm not sure about this.

Perhaps a good old semaphore would be more appropriate.  But it's clear 
that I/O to the device does need to be mutually exclusive with resets, 
one way or another.

Alan Stern

  reply	other threads:[~2022-07-31 14:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-07-25  3:06 [PATCH v5] watchdog: add driver for StreamLabs USB watchdog device Alexey Klimov
2022-07-25  8:51 ` Greg KH
2022-07-25 14:07   ` Guenter Roeck
2022-07-26  0:21   ` Alexey Klimov
2022-07-26  7:48     ` Oliver Neukum
2022-07-31  2:34       ` Alexey Klimov
2022-07-31  8:20         ` Guenter Roeck
2022-07-31 14:17           ` Alan Stern [this message]
2022-08-01  4:00             ` Alexey Klimov
2022-08-01  3:06           ` Alexey Klimov
2022-08-01  9:47         ` Oliver Neukum
2022-07-25 14:02 ` Guenter Roeck
2022-07-26  1:31   ` Alexey Klimov
2022-07-26  3:24     ` Guenter Roeck
2022-08-01  2:58       ` Alexey Klimov

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