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From: Pavel Roskin <proski@gnu.org>
To: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
Cc: Dave <kilroyd@googlemail.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org,
	orinoco-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/19] orinoco: WPA for Agere based cards
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:37:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1217983050.19480.41.camel@dv> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1217892514.17793.39.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Mon, 2008-08-04 at 19:28 -0400, Dan Williams wrote:
> > I'm not familiar with the difference between WPA/WPA2. Is that expected to work?
> 
> Depends; if it's WPA2/RSN + AES-CCMP, then most likely not, because I'm
> pretty sure the cards won't have onboard AES crypto acceleration
> hardware.  Most cards built before WPA2/RSN was standardized don't have
> the horsepower to do AES in firmware purely in software either.
> 
> But you might be able to get away with WPA2/RSN + TKIP if the AP allows
> this configuration.  In that configuration, the only difference between
> WPA and WPA2/RSN would be the information element IDs, really.  But if
> the firmware itself doesn't say it supports WPA on whatever website it
> came from, then likely the card won't do WPA2/RSN either.
> 
> In fact, you already did the right thing by _NOT_ adding
> IW_ENC_CAPA_WPA2 and IW_ENC_CAPA_CIPHER_CCMP in the GIWRANGE handler.
> Thus, you have not signaled that WPA2 is supported by the driver, and
> thus Pavel should not have expected it to work in the first place :)

Perhaps wpa_supplicant should have told me that.

I tried association to hostapd with madwifi, and the only working
configuration is WPA1 only with TKIP.  Even enabling WPA1 and WPA2 and
TKIP makes the connection fail.  Forcing WPA1 and TKIP in
wpa_supplicant.conf doesn't help.

I looked at the patches.  They have references to TKIP, but not to CCMP.
Yet it would be nice if we could support WPA1+WPA2, as we cannot require
that access points stop supporting WPA2, which is the 802.11i standard.
It's possible that we have an issue outside the driver.

> > > [185219.617236] eth1: Ext scan results too large (272 bytes).
> Truncating
> > > results to 270 bytes.

It can even be 296 bytes if I enable WPA1 and WPA2.  But this only
happens with an 802.11n router (D-Link DIR-615).  There are no such
complaints about hostapd+madwifi.  Perhaps 802.11n provides more data in
beacons.

I tried increasing the "data" size from 200 to 300 in hermes.h, and the
message went away.  I was able to associate to D-Link DIR-615 when it
was set to WPA1.  Setting it to WPA1+WPA2 caused connection to fail,
just like it happened with hostapd.  Scanning confirms that the cipher
for WPA1 is TKIP.

I think it should be safe to increase the side of "data" and remove the
unused "flags" filed at the end.  After all, we should trust the
firmware, not the unmaintained Agere driver.  If the firmware says it
has 296 bytes for us (header + "data"), why mistrust it?  I understand
if the firmware tells us it has 4 gigabytes of data from the beacon,
then it's clearly lying.  Let's make "data" 256 bytes to make it a nice
round number.  It would gives us 56 extra bytes, and we need extra 36
bytes in the worst case I could produce.

I'm sorry, I'm going to be offline soon, and I really cannot do any more
tests.

-- 
Regards,
Pavel Roskin

  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-06  0:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-02 10:14 [PATCH 00/19] orinoco: WPA for Agere based cards kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14 ` [PATCH 01/19] orinoco: Add ESSID specific scanning for Agere fw kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14   ` [PATCH 02/19] orinoco: Update scan translation kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14     ` [PATCH 03/19] orinoco: Specify all three parameters to every Hermes command kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14       ` [PATCH 04/19] orinoco: Move EXPORT_SYMBOL declarations next to exported function kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14         ` [PATCH 05/19] orinoco: Add function to execute Hermes initialisation commands synchronously kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14           ` [PATCH 06/19] orinoco: Move firmware download functionality into new module kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14             ` [PATCH 07/19] orinoco: Make firmware download logic more generic kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14               ` [PATCH 08/19] orinoco: Extend hermes_dld routines for Agere firmware kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                 ` [PATCH 09/19] orinoco: Invoke firmware download in main driver kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                   ` [PATCH 10/19] orinoco: Fix transmit for Agere/Lucent with fw 9.x kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                     ` [PATCH 11/19] orinoco: address checkpatch typedef warning kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                       ` [PATCH 12/19] orinoco: Use extended Agere scans available on 9.x series firmwares kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                         ` [PATCH 13/19] orinoco: Don't use boolean parameter to record encoding type kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                           ` [PATCH 14/19] orinoco: Split wevent work thread from wevent sending kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                             ` [PATCH 15/19] orinoco: Use a macro to define wireless handlers kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                               ` [PATCH 16/19] orinoco: Add WE-18 ioctls for WPA kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                                 ` [PATCH 17/19] orinoco: Send association events to userspace kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                                   ` [PATCH 18/19] orinoco: Process bulk of receive interrupt in a tasklet kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:14                                     ` [PATCH 19/19] orinoco: Add MIC on TX and check on RX kilroyd
2008-08-02 10:22                               ` [PATCH 15/19] orinoco: Use a macro to define wireless handlers kilroyd
2008-08-04  4:48   ` [PATCH 01/19] orinoco: Add ESSID specific scanning for Agere fw Pavel Roskin
2008-08-04 15:34     ` Dan Williams
2008-08-05 16:22       ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-09-02 23:06         ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-09-08 12:48           ` Pavel Roskin
2008-09-08 16:45             ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-09-08 18:32             ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-09-09 18:37               ` Dave
2008-09-09 19:33                 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-09-09 21:20                   ` Tomas Winkler
2008-09-09 21:44                     ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-09-13  4:17               ` Pavel Roskin
2008-09-15 21:17                 ` Jean Tourrilhes
2008-08-05 21:15       ` Pavel Roskin
2008-08-05 21:50         ` Dave
2008-08-05 21:55         ` Dan Williams
2008-08-05 22:48           ` Pavel Roskin
2008-08-06 13:13             ` Dan Williams
2008-08-06 13:48               ` Pavel Roskin
2008-08-06 19:26                 ` Dave
2008-08-06 19:29               ` Dave
2008-08-06 20:56                 ` Dan Williams
2008-08-06 21:03                   ` Dan Williams
2008-08-06 21:08                   ` Dave
2008-08-07  2:48                     ` Dan Williams
2008-08-07 18:43                       ` Dave
2008-08-07 19:42                         ` Dan Williams
2008-08-07 20:17                           ` Dave
2008-08-07 20:46                             ` Dan Williams
2008-08-07 21:08                           ` Dave
2008-08-08 14:51                             ` Dan Williams
2008-08-04  3:57 ` [PATCH 00/19] orinoco: WPA for Agere based cards Pavel Roskin
2008-08-04 23:09   ` Dave
2008-08-04 23:28     ` Dan Williams
2008-08-06  0:37       ` Pavel Roskin [this message]
2008-08-06 18:33         ` Dave
2008-08-06 21:01           ` Dan Williams
2008-08-07  8:06             ` Jouni Malinen
2008-08-06 21:28         ` [PATCH 12/19] orinoco: Use extended Agere scans available on 9.x series firmwares kilroyd
2008-08-05 22:38     ` [Orinoco-devel] [PATCH 00/19] orinoco: WPA for Agere based cards Pavel Roskin
2008-08-08  0:02       ` Dave
2008-08-05 22:59     ` Pavel Roskin
2008-08-05 23:46       ` Dave
2008-08-06  0:41         ` [Orinoco-devel] " Pavel Roskin
2008-08-05 22:22   ` [PATCH 07/19] orinoco: Make firmware download logic more generic kilroyd
2008-08-05 22:22     ` [PATCH 09/19] orinoco: Invoke firmware download in main driver kilroyd
2008-08-05 22:22       ` [PATCH 12/19] orinoco: Use extended Agere scans available on 9.x series firmwares kilroyd
2008-08-20 19:28 ` [PATCH 00/19] orinoco: WPA for Agere based cards John W. Linville
2008-08-20 20:49   ` Dave
2008-08-20 21:06     ` Larry Finger
2008-08-20 21:07     ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-20 21:22       ` Johannes Berg
2008-08-20 23:07         ` Dave
2008-08-21  6:42           ` Johannes Berg

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