From: Mattias Nissler <mattias.nissler@gmx.de>
To: Ivo van Doorn <ivdoorn@gmail.com>
Cc: "Johannes Berg" <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
"Mikko Virkkilä" <mikko.virkkila@bluegiga.com>,
rt2400-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
"John W. Linville" <linville@tuxdriver.com>,
linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] TX status reporting with help of an ack queue
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2008 23:41:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1221514881.4511.118.camel@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200809152328.50471.IvDoorn@gmail.com>
On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 23:28 +0200, Ivo van Doorn wrote:
> On Monday 15 September 2008, Johannes Berg wrote:
> > On Mon, 2008-09-15 at 22:20 +0200, Mattias Nissler wrote:
> >
> > > Well, I'm a big fan of modularizing everything in a clean way. This
> > > whole mac80211 thingy is complex enough... But I don't really care as
> > > long as everybody here is happy with it. Let's wait what Mikko says,
> > > it's his code so far.
> >
> > Sure. If you manage to split it out entirely, maybe by some struct that
> > drivers embed in their private vif struct, that'd be great too.
>
> I think the ACK handling could become quite complex, and although it
> would be nice to modularize it a bit, however I am not really sure about
> what the best approach would be for the implementation other then that
> the driver should do as little as possible. ;)
Huh? I think a single function call for the matching in the rx path is
enough. You call it in the rx handler for every received frame. It
returns true if it found a match and reported the tx status (in which
case you stop processing) or false and you can go on doing with the
frame whatever you want. Am I missing something?
>
> Perhaps Mikko or the zd1211rw developers will have better ideas on this subject. :)
>
> > > > But ACK is getting confusing, we're just reporting status based on
> > > > reception (or non-reception!) of ACKs :) How about retries in the hw?
> > >
> > > Retries in the hw? I don't understand? You mean that as a name?
> >
> > Well, with all this we won't know how many times the hardware attempted
> > to send a frame before it got an ACK, if it got one at all. We'd like to
> > know this too, I guess, for the rate control algorithm.
>
> Well this information would definately get lost with this ACK handling,
> but at least we get *some* information about the TX status. ;)
The (not) failed decision is definitely enough to get the PID algo doing
something useful.
Mattias
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-09-15 21:41 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2008-09-15 17:11 ` [RFC][PATCH] TX status reporting with help of an ack queue Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-15 17:56 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-15 18:03 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 19:00 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-15 19:21 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 19:39 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-15 19:46 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 20:20 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-15 20:33 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 21:01 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-24 0:59 ` John W. Linville
2008-09-24 7:40 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-24 8:34 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-15 21:28 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-15 21:41 ` Mattias Nissler [this message]
2008-09-16 18:17 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-17 23:08 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-16 6:24 ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-16 4:58 ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-16 18:18 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-09-18 20:37 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-18 22:29 ` ACK matching [was: TX status reporting with help of an ack queue] Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19 9:08 ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-19 9:46 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19 9:54 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-19 10:19 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19 10:31 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-19 13:51 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19 13:55 ` Johannes Berg
2008-09-19 14:20 ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-19 17:50 ` Jouni Malinen
2008-09-23 6:09 ` Mikko Virkkilä
2008-09-23 7:05 ` Mattias Nissler
2008-09-19 18:30 ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-10-19 5:49 ` Daniel Drake
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