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From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de,
	hmh@hmh.eng.br
Subject: Re: [RFC] b43: rework rfkill code
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:29:50 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228933790.28590.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228932343.15837.57.camel@johannes.berg>

On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 19:05 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 17:51 +0000, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> 
> > They may not be physical buttons, but we can often control this anyway. 
> > For instance, my HP has a button that will perform a hardware disable of 
> > the wifi card. However, I can control that button's state through 
> > software with the hp-wmi driver. 
> 
> That's indeed a complication I wasn't aware of.
> 
> > The way we currently handle that (and, 
> > I think, the only way we *can* handle that) is to provide two separate 
> > rfkill interfaces - one tied to the wireless device, one tied to the 
> > platform device.
> 
> Yes, but how do we currently do this?
> 
> Does the wireless driver get the notification about this from the
> hardware, like it would if this was a real physical switch? Then it's
> probably pretty simple: provide a rfkill struct from the driver that
> updates hard-kill and provide a second rfkill struct for the platform
> device that doesn't get hard-killed, but also provide a soft-kill input
> form the platform device. That way, you can toggle that button, but you
> can also software-enable the platform rfkill device and that in turn
> re-enables the wifi-rfkill "hw" switch device.

This sort of sucks for userspace, because we see the actual wifi card as
hardblocked, but some other random button as softblocked.  There's no
indication that changing the softblock one will affect the hardblocked
one.  What are userspace processes supposed to do here, assume that if a
non-radio-associated softblocked switch exists, that it can re-enable a
hardblocked radio of some random wifi card?

Dan



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-10 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-10 15:09 [RFC] b43: rework rfkill code Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 15:29 ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 16:15   ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-12-10 16:51   ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-12-10 17:18     ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:23       ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:28         ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 21:33           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-12-10 21:42             ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 17:31         ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 17:37           ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:51             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 18:04               ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 18:05               ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 18:09                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 18:29                 ` Dan Williams [this message]
2008-12-10 18:33                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 18:59                     ` Dan Williams
2008-12-10 20:07                   ` Michael Buesch
2009-03-29 18:19     ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-11  0:32   ` Julian Calaby
2008-12-11  1:27     ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-11 13:28       ` Kalle Valo
2008-12-10 15:48 ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 16:12   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-11 16:55 ` Larry Finger
2008-12-12  4:28 ` Larry Finger
2008-12-17 15:48   ` John W. Linville

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