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From: Dan Williams <dcbw@redhat.com>
To: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
Cc: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>,
	Michael Buesch <mb@bu3sch.de>,
	Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org, bcm43xx-dev@lists.berlios.de,
	hmh@hmh.eng.br
Subject: Re: [RFC] b43: rework rfkill code
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2008 13:59:05 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1228935546.28590.37.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228934039.15837.59.camel@johannes.berg>

On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 19:33 +0100, Johannes Berg wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-12-10 at 13:29 -0500, Dan Williams wrote:
> 
> > > Does the wireless driver get the notification about this from the
> > > hardware, like it would if this was a real physical switch? Then it's
> > > probably pretty simple: provide a rfkill struct from the driver that
> > > updates hard-kill and provide a second rfkill struct for the platform
> > > device that doesn't get hard-killed, but also provide a soft-kill input
> > > form the platform device. That way, you can toggle that button, but you
> > > can also software-enable the platform rfkill device and that in turn
> > > re-enables the wifi-rfkill "hw" switch device.
> > 
> > This sort of sucks for userspace, because we see the actual wifi card as
> > hardblocked, but some other random button as softblocked.  There's no
> > indication that changing the softblock one will affect the hardblocked
> > one.  What are userspace processes supposed to do here, assume that if a
> > non-radio-associated softblocked switch exists, that it can re-enable a
> > hardblocked radio of some random wifi card?
> 
> The other question is whether we actually care? So what if the hardware
> can only be enabled with the button, why does that matter?

I guess it doesn't, as long as in Matthew's case, the actual radio
rfkill state is only ever softblocked, because it actually *can* be
re-enabled with the platform button or something.

Dan



  reply	other threads:[~2008-12-10 19:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-10 15:09 [RFC] b43: rework rfkill code Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 15:29 ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 16:15   ` Ivo van Doorn
2008-12-10 16:51   ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-12-10 17:18     ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:23       ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:28         ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 21:33           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2008-12-10 21:42             ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 17:31         ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 17:37           ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 17:51             ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 18:04               ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 18:05               ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 18:09                 ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-10 18:29                 ` Dan Williams
2008-12-10 18:33                   ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-10 18:59                     ` Dan Williams [this message]
2008-12-10 20:07                   ` Michael Buesch
2009-03-29 18:19     ` Johannes Berg
2008-12-11  0:32   ` Julian Calaby
2008-12-11  1:27     ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-11 13:28       ` Kalle Valo
2008-12-10 15:48 ` Michael Buesch
2008-12-10 16:12   ` Matthew Garrett
2008-12-11 16:55 ` Larry Finger
2008-12-12  4:28 ` Larry Finger
2008-12-17 15:48   ` John W. Linville

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