From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-path: Received: from mx2.redhat.com ([66.187.237.31]:52861 "EHLO mx2.redhat.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753432AbZFCNEN (ORCPT ); Wed, 3 Jun 2009 09:04:13 -0400 Subject: Re: [PATCH] rfkill: create useful userspace interface From: Dan Williams To: Henrique de Moraes Holschuh Cc: Marcel Holtmann , Alan Jenkins , Johannes Berg , John Linville , linux-wireless In-Reply-To: <20090603041030.GB10464@khazad-dum.debian.net> References: <4A238EA2.4040106@tuffmail.co.uk> <1243858256.5299.14.camel@johannes.local> <1243867620.3015.17.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A23FD91.8020200@tuffmail.co.uk> <1243885494.3015.29.camel@localhost.localdomain> <4A24559D.7010201@tuffmail.co.uk> <1243928308.3192.38.camel@localhost.localdomain> <1243929706.20064.7.camel@johannes.local> <4A24E3E4.1050505@tuffmail.co.uk> <1243932109.3192.73.camel@localhost.localdomain> <20090603041030.GB10464@khazad-dum.debian.net> Content-Type: text/plain Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 09:03:36 -0400 Message-Id: <1244034216.22679.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: linux-wireless-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: On Wed, 2009-06-03 at 01:10 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 02 Jun 2009, Marcel Holtmann wrote: > > Forget about this EPO crap. That is just a stupid concept anyway. > > Is it? So, if I use the _hardware switch_ on my laptop to kill all > internal radios, it shouldn't be enforced by the OS on extra radios I > plugged? Or on shitty internal WLAN cards that doesn't tie properly to > the mini-pci and mini-pcie hardware kill lines? > > And any userspace PoS program can decide to bring up such radios that > are not hardware-killed even if I am clearly trying to disable them all? You hardkilled. Of course it should bring down everything. If you don't want to hardkill, then disable specific radios via /sys or some UI. The hardswitch is the "eject" button. Other types like pushbutton switches (Fn+F5, HP laptop touchbuttons, etc) that *aren't* hardswitches connected to a GPIO on the wifi device should probably just bring up some window letting you pick what gets rfkilled. Dan