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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Hin-Tak Leung <hintak.leung@gmail.com>
Cc: "Gábor Stefanik" <netrolller.3d@gmail.com>,
	"Stefan Steuerwald" <salsasepp@googlemail.com>,
	linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Testing AP mode with WLAN-USB-Stick: How to obtain?
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2009 11:59:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1244714367.4706.8.camel@johannes.local> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ace41890906102008u421f5669m3cf23a437f63d278@mail.gmail.com>

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On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 04:08 +0100, Hin-Tak Leung wrote:

> For the sake of being pedantic, can I have some reference (if only for
> those sleepless nights for lack of boring reading materials...)? Maybe
>  I won't understand it anyway, but maybe somebody else who is
> listening in to this exchange can chip in.
> I have a 1300-page pdf supposedly the  802.11 2007 standard I
> downloaded some months ago through one of the wikipedia links, I think
> (somewhere under http://standards.ieee.org/) ... chapter 11 is MLME
> and section 11.2 is power management, which in turn is split into two
> sub-sections about power management in infrastructure nework and IBSS
> mode. I found a particular sentence in section 11.2.1. which sounds a
> bit like what you are saying (except with some cryptic acronyms!):
> 
> ------
> If any STA in its BSS is in PSmode, the AP shall buffer all broadcast
> and multicast MSDUs and deliver them to all STAs immediately
> following the next Beacon frame containing a DTIM transmission.
> ------
> 
> Have I found the right place to read up on such things, or there are
> other documents, etc (more detailed, or more "layman")?

Yes, that's the right place.

> On the broken-AP mode in the zd1211 vendor driver - presumably Zydas
> did not wrote that specially for linux, but just modified/adapted from
> their windows driver? So I guess windows users of zd1211 (or other USB
> sticks) are used to being able to do such things and assume whatever
> it does is normal? It just crossed my mind that if some off-spec
> behavior is sufficiently popular on windows (e.g. if
> connection-sharing requires AP mode to work and won't take IBSS),
> sometimes the spec gets modified to ratify a formerly barbaric
> off-spec behavior.

I don't think windows supports being an AP at all, afaict it's
connection sharing will create an IBSS.

johannes

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-11  9:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <f76a32050906081007q19e9361w8c1fad6fc73c47e7@mail.gmail.com>
2009-06-08 17:11 ` Testing AP mode with WLAN-USB-Stick: How to obtain? Stefan Steuerwald
2009-06-08 20:19   ` Chi-Thanh Christopher Nguyen
2009-06-08 23:59   ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-06-09 11:26     ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-06-10  3:18       ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-06-10  7:30         ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-10 11:31           ` John W. Linville
2009-06-10 19:19             ` Kalle Valo
2009-06-10 19:28               ` Jouni Malinen
2009-06-10 19:36                 ` Kalle Valo
2009-06-10 19:40                   ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-06-10 19:58                 ` John W. Linville
2009-06-10 19:55               ` John W. Linville
2009-06-10 13:39           ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-06-10 15:22             ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-06-10 15:49               ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-10 15:51                 ` Johannes Berg
2009-06-10 19:28                 ` Kalle Valo
2009-06-11  3:08                 ` Hin-Tak Leung
2009-06-11  3:51                   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2009-06-11  9:59                   ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2009-06-11 14:42                     ` Gábor Stefanik
2009-06-09  8:19   ` Jon Fairbairn
2009-06-09  9:16     ` Alexandre Becholey - s h o c k f i s h /
2009-06-11 14:58 Joerg Pommnitz
2009-06-11 15:06 ` Gábor Stefanik

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