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From: Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>
To: Benoit Papillault <benoit.papillault@free.fr>
Cc: Bruno Randolf <br1@einfach.org>,
	linville@tuxdriver.com, juuso.oikarinen@nokia.com,
	ath5k-devel@lists.ath5k.org, linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] mac80211: mark 1, 2, 5.5 and 11Mbps as mandatory rates for 802.11b
Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 14:13:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1274962420.3669.39.camel@jlt3.sipsolutions.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BFE60EF.7020800@free.fr>

On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 14:09 +0200, Benoit Papillault wrote:

> 802.11a = Clause 17, called OFDM
> 802.11b = Clause 15 (called DSSS) & Clause 18 (called HR/DSSS).

Are you sure? Isn't clause 15 pre-amendement?

> Clause 15 defines 1 Mbits and 2 Mbits rates, long PLCP only
> Clause 18 defines 5.5 Mbits and 11 Mbits. Optionally, short PLCP is 
> available for 2 Mbits, 5.5 Mbits and 11 Mbits. Since it's optional, such 
> short PLCP rates are probably not part of the mandatory rates.
> 
> Basic rate set must includes mandatory rates set. 

I don't think this is true.

> This is apparently 
> what every other AP do today and I indeed see no points in adding more 
> rates to the basic rate set other than what is already defined in the 
> mandatory rate set (except we cannot rely on this rule when joining an 
> existing BSS/IBSS, of course).

Sure, you can add more than say 11b mandatory rates to specifically
exclude non-11g stations from it to improve performance.

johannes


  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-27 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-26 12:48 [PATCHv2] mac80211: Fix basic rates for created IBSS networks Juuso Oikarinen
2010-05-26 12:53 ` Johannes Berg
2010-05-26 13:13   ` Juuso Oikarinen
2010-05-26 13:27     ` Johannes Berg
2010-05-27  4:50       ` Juuso Oikarinen
2010-05-26 14:14     ` Johannes Berg
2010-05-27  0:41       ` Bruno Randolf
2010-05-27  8:12         ` Johannes Berg
2010-05-27  0:45       ` [PATCH] mac80211: mark 1, 2, 5.5 and 11Mbps as mandatory rates for 802.11b Bruno Randolf
2010-05-27  6:02         ` [ath5k-devel] " Benoit Papillault
2010-05-27  8:08         ` Johannes Berg
2010-05-27  8:11           ` Johannes Berg
2010-05-27 12:09           ` Benoit Papillault
2010-05-27 12:13             ` Johannes Berg [this message]
2010-05-27  5:06       ` [PATCHv2] mac80211: Fix basic rates for created IBSS networks Juuso Oikarinen
2010-05-27  8:11         ` Johannes Berg
2010-05-27  8:28           ` Juuso Oikarinen

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